We dont actual have TA...

[zwzsg]

Someone should make a mod exactly equal to the old TA

Ok.

except that I think that it should have deep charge launchers since in the old TA it was impossible to retake sea from land if your enemy had submarines on it...

Phail! Don't you realise that's the exact same train of though that lead to every single TA based mod?

Also, yeah, Classic TA 5.6. There would still be a lots of stuff to fix, like all the collision sphere, all the stuff related to targetting the center instead of the base, etc... I'd like to say I'll fix it one day but that would be lying. I'd like to say "someone else take up from there and fix what's left to be fixed", but I don't trust anyone to respect TA, and would get angry if someone released something called Classic TA 5.7 with stuff like stats changed or TA flaws fixed.

If you want OTA balance, then use that as a base and just edit the health, E & M costs of each unit.

I don't get that. If the weapon don't behave the same, find a way to fiddle with the weapons tag to force Spring to behave closer to TA, but don't pretend just compensating by changing the unit cost will result in same gameplay. It stumps that people that pretends to be modders, like Tired or Caydr, can fall into thinking all that mattered for gameplay and balance is the effectiveness/cost ratio, and that as long as it's preserved, gameplay is the same no matter how differently units act.

[Tired]

And who do you think's going to recreate Spring from the ground up to accomodate OTA completely, zwzsg? You? ~~

Personally, I've found that Spring's gameplay is superior to OTA's as it adds functionality. If we're to recreate OTA exactly, then we'd better do away with this crazy deformable terrain. 3D's got to go as well. This quote:

find a way to fiddle with the weapons tag to force Spring to behave closer to TA

is made of fail. "Closer to" won't have the same gameplay either. We don't want the same exact gameplay or we'd reinstall the original.

Anyway, why don't you pretend to be a player more often - I'll offer you a tutorial in getting your butt stomped, and you can learn some things about the importance of cost effectiveness. =)

*For the record, my mod, with barely 300 downloads, gets me credit for being at least a pretend modder, but NOiZEr's and Day's, with a download for every player, gets them nuts. Victory.

[Peet]

And who do you think's going to recreate Spring from the ground up to accomodate OTA completely, zwzsg? You? ~~

You're missing his point entirely.

but NOiZEr's and Day's, with a download for every player, gets them nuts.

Believe me, not every player

[Tired]

How would you know, you nematoad? When's the last time you played any mod other than SimBase, for that matter? =)

Missing the point is accepting prepatory statements that the writer goes on to disregard. He can say that he's not going to do it, but if he's complaining and lecturing about it as though he were, then his arse isn't covered. Oo

[TheRegisteredOne]

How would you know, you nematoad? When's the last time you played any mod other than SimBase, for that matter? =)

Missing the point is accepting prepatory statements that the writer goes on to disregard. He can say that he's not going to do it, but if he's complaining and lecturing about it as though he were, then his arse isn't covered. Oo

people who wants OTA can go make OTA, people who don't want OTA can not download OTA. everybody is happy

[Peet]

How would you know, you nematoad?

Call me real insults please, not random half-words strung together.

When's the last time you played any mod other than SimBase, for that matter? =)

When's the last time you made a constructive comment on anything or anyone? ~~ Oo =)

Missing the point is accepting prepatory statements that the writer goes on to disregard. He can say that he's not going to do it, but if he's complaining and lecturing about it as though he were, then his arse isn't covered. Oo

Once again, I ask you to read his post and think about what he is saying, rather than blindly attacking him.

[LordMatt]

How would you know, you nematoad?

Call me real insults please, not random half-words strung together.

You've never heard of a nematoad before?

Believe me, not every player Wink

This is why we need to include the mod in the spring installer.

[Peet]

I've heard of a nematode

[Tired]

Good call, Peet - I did indeed mispell that word you had to Google the meaning of.

For education's sake:

nem├é┬Àa├é┬Àtode [ n├â┬®mmə td ] (plural nem├é┬Àa├é┬Àtodes)

noun

tiny worm: a worm, often microscopic, with a cylindrical unsegmented body protected by a tough outer skin cuticle. Phylum Nematoda.

Once again, I ask you to read his post and think about what he is saying, rather than blindly attacking him.

Backatcha, ho bag.

[Peet]

Well I give up...you really do refuse to gain some friggin sense and pay attention to Zwzsg, don't you?

[Tired]

Don't give up now, Peet - you're just starting to get frothed up. =)

[Neddie]

Peet has only ever frothed once - at AF.

[Peet]

Well I give up...you really do refuse to gain some friggin sense and pay attention to Zwzsg, don't you?

Yep.

k.

[Tired]

Peet has only ever frothed once - at AF.

I purport to offer you a second sampling. ~~

[Peet]

In which case you fail, I am merely disgusted by you.

[Felix the Cat]

Who is that in your avatar, Tired?

[rattle]

His avatar's delicate nature represents his own fragility under the hardships of everybody hating him.

Q: Where did I steal that from?

[KDR_11k]

You mean it represents how he's an emo bitch that needs to die already? I think the Poopsmith might be a better avatar for him then (isn't he banned anyway?).

[rattle]

Careful he might cut himself if you keep pushing.

[TradeMark]

Emo, haha.