NewMap: Hydraiel

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:02

You can't copyright COLOR CODE. YOU WILL NOT try to copyright SMD.

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Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:09

Hypothetical question, if picasso hadnt said he copied that from hunters map, WOULD ANY OF YOU KNOWN..

guess what noo..

basically YOUR DOIN IT WRONG!!

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:15

These are the lines he is bitching about

SkyColor=1 0.76 0.34;
SunColor=1 0.85 0.75;

Those values range from .0 to 1 on all three counts!

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hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:19

Forboding Angel wrote:You can't copyright COLOR CODE.

I SAID THAT IT IS BAD FORM. I DIDN'T COPYRIGHT ANYTHING, IT'S JUST COMMON COURTESY TO ASK SOMEONE IF IT IS OKAY FOR THEM TO USE IT.

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Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:22

It's not yours to give.

It is not "your work". It is simply a setting.

BTW, in case you havn't noticed, photo's are a lit more than color codes. Photo's are also in RGB values.

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Synsless · Post by **Synsless** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:24

Assuming 2 decimal places thats 1 million combinations per line, even copying 2 lines thats 1 billion possible combinations. Just because something is two lines doesn't mean it's any less work. You should be taking screenshots of the sky and telling me THATS what he copyed, because THATS what matters.

BUT, the point isn't that he copied it, hunter already said he could use it, the point is:

"Hey can I use your skybox for this map I'm making?"

"Yes"

Isn't as hard as you are making it out to be. Picasso, I'm not directing any of this towards you, just FYI, you and hunters stuff is between yall.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:26

smd is not a skybox... It's nowhere even close...

Skyboxes are generally in dds format. A small google search would have netted you that little gem.

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hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:26

Forboding Angel wrote:
BTW, in case you havn't noticed, photo's are a lit more than color codes. Photo's are also in RGB values.

The sky values are RGB...literally in that order too. The scale is from 0 - 1 instead of 0 - 255.

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Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:27

Nevermind................ But so you know, I'm don't have the courtesy to ask you to use your 'two' color values. :)

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:28

hunterw wrote:
Forboding Angel wrote:
BTW, in case you havn't noticed, photo's are a lit more than color codes. Photo's are also in RGB values.
The sky values are RGB...literally in that order too. The scale is from 0 - 1 instead of 0 - 255.

Yet you're the one saying that 2 color settings are "your work"?

BTW I was referring to literal RGB vales, e.g. 255,255,255

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Synsless · Post by **Synsless** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:32

Forboding Angel wrote: It is not "your work". It is simply a setting.

Yea, and paintings are simply oil and dye thrown on a canvas, whats your point? Why are you trying to make it sound so simple, hunter literally worked hours to set those values, its about the sky they produce.
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Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:34

your lost, hes not talking about a painting

Synsless · Post by **Synsless** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:35

Wasp wrote:your lost, hes not talking about a painting

The point is you can make anything SOUND simple if you try.

And will someone please answer my question why it is such a big deal to send a PM?

Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:36

Yet you're the one saying that 2 color settings are "your work"

its that simple.

Syn next time you want to use the color 0.785 0.784 0.784;
you contact me ok.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:38

Synsless wrote:hunter literally worked hours to set those value

if he worked for hours then I am sorry for him. Look, it is not as simple to equate it to painting. They are just colors, stop the fighting.

Hunter, forb has given more to this community then you have or likely shall. For what it is worth, I liked your map but you and forb should work together not fight.

Forb, c'mon man, calm down. This isn't going to get anywhere. He is new around here, he made a mistake.

STOP THE FIGHTING PLEASE!

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:39

Forboding Angel wrote:
Yet you're the one saying that 2 color settings are "your work", and I'm the idiot?

Really bro? 2 color settings???

hydraiel.smd:

//Compiled by Maelstroms SMD Creator version 3.5
[MAP]
{
Description=Hydraiel: 16x16 A Water Map - fight for the Corall Riff and use the Com to reach the Metall in the Deepths, without getting in Berthas Sight. Made by PicassoCT;
TidalStrength=21;
Gravity=130;
MaxMetal=0.18;
ExtractorRadius=120;
MapHardness=10000;
DetailTex=Sand.tga;
[ATMOSPHERE]
{
FogColor=0.95 0.62 0.45;
FogStart=0.99;
CloudColor=0.37 0.22 0.25;
SkyColor=1 0.76 0.34;
SunColor=1 0.85 0.75;
CloudDensity=0.5;
MinWind=5;
MaxWind=18;
}
[WATER]
{
WaterSurfaceColor=1 1 1;
WaterPlaneColor=1 1 1;
WaterBaseColor=1 1 1;
WaterAbsorb=1 1 1;
WaterMinColor=1 1 1;
}
[LIGHT]
{
SunDir=0.6 0.85 0.8;
GroundAmbiantColor=0.09 0.06 0.05;
GroundSunColor=0.95 0.62 0.45;
GroundShadowDensity=1;
UnitAmbiantColor=0.09 0.06 0.05;
UnitSunColor=0.09 0.62 1;
UnitShadowDensity=1;
SpecularSunColor=0.95 0.62 0.45;

}
[TERRAINTYPE0]
{
name=Default;
hardness=1;
tankmovespeed=1;
kbotmovespeed=1;
hovermovespeed=1;
shipmovespeed=1;
}
[TERRAINTYPE200]
{
name=NOGOAREA- 200;
hardness=1;
tankmovespeed=0;
kbotmovespeed=0;
hovermovespeed=1;
shipmovespeed=1;
}
[TEAM0]
{
StartPosX=250;
StartPosZ=250;
}
[TEAM1]
{
StartPosX=250;
StartPosZ=7800;
}
[TEAM2]
{
StartPosX=7800;
StartPosZ=250;
}
[TEAM3]
{
StartPosX=7800;
StartPosZ=7800;
}
}

[MAP]
{
Description=16 x 16. Tangerine by hunterw. Now with 100% less crashing in loading screens!;
TidalStrength=25;
Gravity=100;
MaxMetal=0.95;
ExtractorRadius=90;
MapHardness=185;
AutoShowMetal=1;
[ATMOSPHERE]
{
FogColor=0.95 0.62 0.45;
FogStart=0.42;
CloudColor=0.37 0.22 0.25;
SkyColor=1 0.76 0.34
SunColor=1 0.85 0.75;
CloudDensity=0.5;
MinWind=5;
MaxWind=25;
}
[WATER]
{
WaterSurfaceColor=0.7 0.64 0.86;
WaterPlaneColor=0.04 0.16 0.25;
WaterBaseColor=0.80 1 1;
WaterAbsorb=0.012 0.0060 0.0045;
WaterMinColor=0 0 0.05;
}
[LIGHT]
{
SunDir=0.6 0.85 0.8;
GroundAmbiantColor=0.09 0.06 0.05;
GroundSunColor=0.95 0.62 0.45;
GroundShadowDensity=1;
UnitAmbiantColor=0.09 0.06 0.05;
UnitSunColor=0.98 0.68 0.49;
UnitShadowDensity=1;
SpecularSunColor=0.95 0.62 0.45;
}
[TEAM0]
{
StartPosX=5754;
StartPosZ=1914;
}
[TEAM1]
{
StartPosX=3136;
StartPosZ=2200;
}
[TEAM2]
{
StartPosX=568;
StartPosZ=768;
}
[TEAM3]
{
StartPosX=3002;
StartPosZ=884;
}
[TEAM4]
{
StartPosX=2465;
StartPosZ=6215;
}
[TEAM5]
{
StartPosX=5200;
StartPosZ=5970;
}
[TEAM6]
{
StartPosX=7612;
StartPosZ=7452;
}
[TEAM7]
{
StartPosX=5104;
StartPosZ=7264;
}
}

two values huh.

oh no, whats this???

BTW I was referring to literal RGB vales, e.g. 255,255,255

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smoth · Post by **smoth** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:41

Hunter, chill you are new around here but mappers use each others sky all the time. It is the norm here. If you wanted the sky to be yours, you needed to specify. I am sorry you are upset but please understand that copying each other's sky is the norm around here.

Synsless · Post by **Synsless** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:41

Wasp wrote:
Yet you're the one saying that 2 color settings are "your work"
its that simple.

Syn next time you want to use the color 0.785 0.784 0.784;
you contact me ok.

For skys like this: http://www.unknown-files.net/index.php? ... &dlid=1972

I'm sure it is that simple.

I'm don't make maps at all anyway so your attempt at a joke is lost on me, I'm just saying obviously some people spend more time on details than others, those that don't don't give a shit about copying other peoples' stuff cause it's easier for them, those people that do spend time on every detail to make the best map possible obviously care a little more.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:44

Ok fine smoth. I will drop it.

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smoth · Post by **smoth** » 17 Dec 2006, 06:44

syless, play forbs maps, he pays attention to a lot of details. Please stop, you really don't have any right to deride forbs work. I can understand your frustration but you choose to personaly attack forb. That isn't right either.

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