NewMap: Hydraiel

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 16 Dec 2006, 16:31

New Watermap... the Way the water should have been in Gaatskaan..
16x 16 in Size

PS: The Sky was copied from Tangerine..

Download

http://www.unknown-files.net/index.php? ... &dlid=2036

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AF · Post by AF » 16 Dec 2006, 16:48

funkadelic

Strategia · Post by **Strategia** » 16 Dec 2006, 17:56

sea maps = ^_^

There isn't nearly enough focus on sea in most mods IMO. TA-Battlefleet, EE and NOTA FTW! :D

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 16 Dec 2006, 18:51

I noticed that Lack of classic Seamaps (with that white Corralls...)
And K-Bots can walk around the Map...

Can somebody upload a Replay?

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 16 Dec 2006, 19:45

PicassoCT wrote: PS: The Sky was copied from Tangerine..

odd, I don't remember authorizing that.

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 16 Dec 2006, 19:47

Hunter W plz allow it.. or i will have to do another dialup upload of 2 1/2 hours.. Plz...

hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 16 Dec 2006, 20:19

its okay to use it, and i'd let anyone use it that credits me for it, but it's very bad form to take someone's work and use it without asking them. another reason it's bad form is that this map is released so soon after mine has been. if two maps come out at the same time with the same sky, it's hard for people to tell which author did the work.

i guarantee i spent more than 2.5 hours making that smd file, and i didn't get to eat cheetos and watch cartoons during that time - i got to archive and load my map a few dozen times tweaking variables until i found something that looks good, which is what more or less everyone else that maps does as well. if you're going to spend the time on making the height and texture map, you might as well spend another few hours making your smd so it's completely your map.

that's how i think at least. i'll spare you having to do it, but if you choose not to on some future map as well, remember to ask before you release anything.

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 16 Dec 2006, 20:28

Understood. If you want to use some of my Skyboxes in Return - feel free. And Thx again..

Now how does it play ? Come on peoplz.. for heaven sake.. this was real work, not just the kind of "lets throw it togehter" of aWallDividesit..

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 17 Dec 2006, 00:04

I actually like this one alot Picasso, that coral is pretty schweet.

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 17 Dec 2006, 00:05

HUrray somebody likes it...

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Dec 2006, 00:06

I love it picasso. It looks beautiful. Great work!

Wasp · Post by **Wasp** » 17 Dec 2006, 00:13

thats awesome

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 17 Dec 2006, 00:32

Thx... FA Thx Wasp.. i spended two nights downloading Corallpictures, making Patterns and rendering a Lightmap to Overlay.. it was like that.. that sm3 format.. layer for layer every single one with a mask..

I even read those information which coralls are how difficult to keep and grow.

Oh, No.

I forgot to credit the Features.. sorry... sorry... i just wanted to release it, i was so proud to have something that really looks like i imagined it..

The Features in the Map are made by Smoth. They can only be used if he is properly credited. I am sorry.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Dec 2006, 00:38

hehehe, it's cool

smoth isn't the type of guy that gets all bent out of shape over it. Anyone who is anyone knows that they are his anyway ;p

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 17 Dec 2006, 00:51

Thats a Relief to know..

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Dec 2006, 02:13

Hunterw

SMD settings are copied all the time.

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hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 17 Dec 2006, 05:27

Forboding Angel wrote:Hunterw

SMD settings are copied all the time.

I didn't say he couldn't use it, I said he needs to ask before he uses it.

You act like I am new to mapping or something. The same general rule applies to any user-made map for any game ever, why would it not apply here? I've let anyone use anything out of any of my maps for any game I make dozens of times, all they have to do is ask. In this situation, I've even given permission to use it WITHOUT being asked.

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Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 17 Dec 2006, 05:43

No, you need to back the hell up. SMD settings are fair game, period. I don't care where you came from or what games you've mapped for. Would you like 50+ links to my spring maps, or more links to other projects I've worked with?

SMD is universal. You wrote your smd from complete scratch, with no other help than the table in the wiki? Really. Kinda funny that the order ot commands is the exact same as Maelstroms SMD creator...

Don't EVER yell at someone for not giving you credit on smds. Smd's are nothing groundbreaking or revolutionary, and many of your settings have been copied from various of my maps, so I want credit damnit!

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Argh · Post by **Argh** » 17 Dec 2006, 05:50

Forb... you're wrong about the law here. Just because you give away your stuff does not require other people to do so. Some people like to require credit or permission, and that's 100% legal.

If you don't understand that much about copyright law, then go Google about it until you understand.
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hunterw · Post by **hunterw** » 17 Dec 2006, 05:56

SMD settings are just numbers, just like a heightmap or a texture map. Even though you can copy SMD settings with a text editor means absolutely nothing - you're still taking someone's work that is not yours, and if you do that it is not in good form to use it without asking if you can.

The fact that all SMDs are similar in the way they are created means nothing. The only thing that matters is that someone took time to make it, and in my case I spent 3 or 4 hours of my life making that sky. The name of the map is based upon the sky if that should give you any indication that I am proud of the time I spent on making a nice looking sky for that map.

You should read my posts and consider in your brain the points I am making, because the ethics involved with taking someone's work (work, meaning they spent time to create something) is universal no matter what format the work may be in - text, images, ANYTHING.

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