remove visual studio in the building instructions?

remove visual studio in the building instructions?

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Super Mario
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remove visual studio in the building instructions?

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https://springrts.com/wiki/Building_Spr ... rted.21.29

Here a question, why list visual studio in the building instructions if the libraries themselves are outdated? It a bit counter productive if you guys want to keep building instructions themselves simple and straight forward.

split from viewtopic.php?f=12&t=33247
next time, please stay on topic. its pretty unfair to the creator of the thread. -- abma
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Re: spring & visual studio

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Here a question, why list visual studio in the building instructions if the libraries themselves are outdated? It a bit counter productive if you guys want to keep building instructions themselves simple and straight forward.
because it was written when it was in a working state. this question is offtopic in this thread. serveral devs requested it to compile with visual studio, also the warning that it doesn't work is hopefully pretty clear. its unclear if compiling with VS can be fixed or not... basicly it should be possible.
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Re: spring & visual studio

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abma wrote:
Here a question, why list visual studio in the building instructions if the libraries themselves are outdated? It a bit counter productive if you guys want to keep building instructions themselves simple and straight forward.
because it was written when it was in a working state. this question is offtopic in this thread. serveral devs requested it to compile with visual studio, also the warning that it doesn't work is hopefully pretty clear. its unclear if compiling with VS can be fixed or not... basically it should be possible.
It is theoretically possible, but it needs someone who willing to commit the invest the time it needs to get it up in a working state. Until then, I think it should be removed, because what's the point of putting there that you know that it doesn't work?
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Re: spring & visual studio

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Super Mario wrote:It is theoretically possible, but it needs someone who willing to commit the invest the time it needs to get it up in a working state. Until then, I think it should be removed, because what's the point of putting there that you know that it doesn't work?
i disagree: its kept because its a shortcut for people who are willing to fix it.
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Re: spring & visual studio

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abma wrote:
Super Mario wrote:It is theoretically possible, but it needs someone who willing to commit the invest the time it needs to get it up in a working state. Until then, I think it should be removed, because what's the point of putting there that you know that it doesn't work?
i disagree: its kept because its a shortcut for people who are willing to fix it.
that commit was around 2 years ago, there is no guarantee that there is someone out there will submit a patch to fix the current vc libraries, which btw, you guys are using libraries that isn't easy to build nor maintain on windows, as they are Unix based. I very doubt it won't be another god damn goose chase when it comes to obtaining the necessarily files, based on the previous experience that I had.
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Re: remove visual studio in the building instructions?

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Imo keep them, with the warnings they already have. They harm no one & its clear from the past that people with enough experience of VS have occasionally appeared and used/fixed them.
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Silentwings wrote:Imo keep them, with the warnings they already have. They harm no one & its clear from the past that people with enough experience of VS have occasionally appeared and used/fixed them.
Then it should move into it's own article, of things "needs to be fixed".
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Re: spring & visual studio

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abma wrote:
Super Mario wrote:It is theoretically possible, but it needs someone who willing to commit the invest the time it needs to get it up in a working state. Until then, I think it should be removed, because what's the point of putting there that you know that it doesn't work?
i disagree: its kept because its a shortcut for people who are willing to fix it.

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Re: remove visual studio in the building instructions?

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Super Mario wrote:
Silentwings wrote:Imo keep them, with the warnings they already have. They harm no one & its clear from the past that people with enough experience of VS have occasionally appeared and used/fixed them.
Then it should move into it's own article, of things "needs to be fixed".
You mean things it would be NICE to have? Need implies that there is an urgency to the task, these things are nice to haves.
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Re: remove visual studio in the building instructions?

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smoth wrote:
Super Mario wrote:
Silentwings wrote:Imo keep them, with the warnings they already have. They harm no one & its clear from the past that people with enough experience of VS have occasionally appeared and used/fixed them.
Then it should move into it's own article, of things "needs to be fixed".
You mean things it would be NICE to have? Need implies that there is an urgency to the task, these things are nice to haves.
Of course it's not urgent, but the fact remains that it's currently broken, and it should be removed into it's own article to prevent confusion.
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link to the specific article?
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Re: remove visual studio in the building instructions?

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You know.. there are vms.. they work everywhere..
linux in windows. .. yes they are slow..
but slower then Noooo ?
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Re: remove visual studio in the building instructions?

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smoth wrote:link to the specific article?
What article? The build article or the potential new article that I was referring to?
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Super Mario wrote:Of course it's not urgent, but the fact remains that it's currently broken, and it should be removed into it's own article to prevent confusion.
Wow.
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Re: remove visual studio in the building instructions?

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smoth wrote:
Super Mario wrote:Of course it's not urgent, but the fact remains that it's currently broken, and it should be removed into it's own article to prevent confusion.
Wow.
https://springrts.com/wiki/Building_Spr ... _.28v11.29
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Re: remove visual studio in the building instructions?

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It says not officially supported right in the article, problem solved, thread over, everyone can go home now.
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Re: remove visual studio in the building instructions?

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I started work on a Vagrant setup, if someone wants to invest time, that might be a better place than visual studio. They can hook up MSBuild to run whatever scripts to remotely start the build process then ( Sublimetext can run MSBuild too among others )
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