Super Noob needs help

Super Noob needs help

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play4theworld
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Super Noob needs help

Post by play4theworld »

Hey,

I just downloaded spring and Im VERY confused.

Is this an RTS engine or a gaming platform?

Is it for modders or developers?

Whats this lobby thing? Does it give acces to theyre servers if I make a game or does it suck up my home network for a server? And if I have to setup something like SmartFox how would I do that?

And where are some step by step tutorials? The only ones ive seens o far are really more like guides....

And does it support massive battles with like 80 real players or is it more of 1v1 and each with 40 units.

Thanks for any help :) I'm sure i'll think of something else to add later.
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Neddie
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It is an engine which can run a variety of games and mods. Modder and developer are only differentiated by the scope of their project; both work on modules here, but modders are generally those who derive directly from other intellectual property, while game developers create original games. Both coexist here. The lobby is a client to access the master server, through which all online games are played. Online games can be hosted locally (Through your computer), automatically (Through autohosts) or semiautomatically (Through relay bots). If you're hosting locally you need to forward some ports, the necessary information is in the wiki.

What type of tutorial do you desire?

The engine supports large matches, and most of the matches you'll see range from two to thirty two players each using anywhere between a dozen and four hundred units. Of course, within these ranges there is great variance which depends mostly upon the mod/game and map played.
play4theworld
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Post by play4theworld »

OK,

So is there some type of GUI for the engine or something or is it all coding?

And I'm still confused with the lobby thing. I want to make a Multiplayer game but I dont want to use my home network. I want to use something like smartfox (http://www.smartfoxserver.com/products/basic.php) or RakNet or Photon or the like.

I would be wanting to develop my own game from scratch or a really big mod built off of another game, so a tutorial helping with that wpuld be good.

Thanks, play4

P.S. I prefer blender for my 3d models
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Pressure Line
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Post by Pressure Line »

The lobby is just like any other game where you click the 'multiplayer' button, and it takes you to a list of games already open/inprogress or you can host your own game and have people join it.
play4theworld
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So if I make my own game I dont have to code the network or pay for a server? Liek i said i CANNOT use my home network for any type of bandwidwth consumption or a server because of hackers etc.
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Sucky_Lord
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play4theworld wrote:So if I make my own game I dont have to code the network or pay for a server? Liek i said i CANNOT use my home network for any type of bandwidwth consumption or a server because of hackers etc.
Relay host?
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CarRepairer
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play4theworld wrote:So if I make my own game I dont have to code the network or pay for a server? Liek i said i CANNOT use my home network for any type of bandwidwth consumption or a server because of hackers etc.
Correct. People can play your game on the official spring server. Join the lobby and see variety of games in the battle list.
Sucky_Lord wrote:Relay host?
He's not asking about hosting battles, he's asking about hosting a spring server.
play4theworld
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well I though a server setup would = a battle setup for whatever game i get going.

And how much can the master server handle? is there any type of limit? and also, what type of poly count should i stick to?
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knorke
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And how much can the master server handle? is there any type of limit?
the server that you connect to for online play is basically like a irc chat with some extra buttons like "open battle" etc.
unlike some other servers that actually run the game too just without graphic that is not the case with the spring lobby server. So games will not start to lag or anything because of playernumbers.
It is not possible to join games that have already started, if that is a "limit" for you.
So is there some type of GUI for the engine or something or is it all coding?
Spring comes with some default GUI that supports all this rts stuff like moving units, waypoints etc. If you mean a GUI for changing weapons, that is all done via text files. For making a very simple RTS game no coding would be required. ie you via textfiles you that some movement variables for a tank like speed=50; acceleration=4; but spring will the tank move by itself and you do not have to worry about ie coding collision detection.

just try playing any of the games, it should answer most of your question.
play4theworld
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Post by play4theworld »

ok so how do i download one? Said something about Spring downloader...but i already downloaded spring...

Edit:

figured this part out
play4theworld
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how do i get to the area where i would mod stuff and/or make a game.
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SanadaUjiosan
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Post by SanadaUjiosan »

You're there.

Crack open a mod file with 7zip and look at the files, and scour the boards for starting threads, there's a few.

Prepare for a long road if you're serious about making something.
SeanHeron
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Post by SeanHeron »

Yeah, there's no GDK as such - a lot of the info you'll be wanting is to be found behind the "Development" tab above, more specifically Game development.
yanom
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Post by yanom »

Also, please make your post titles more descriptive. For example, the title "Confused by Spring" would be more helpful to people wanting to answer questions than "Super Noob needs help".
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FLOZi
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Also, don't make pointless 3 month rez's? :|
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zwzsg
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If yesterday you still had trouble finding what was Spring and how to download a Spring game, then you are not yet ready to make a Spring game today.

Spend some times playing some Spring games and getting more familiar with Spring first.
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