Regarding Final Frontier and Maps

Slamoid · Post by **Slamoid** » 21 Sep 2005, 22:24

We seriously need a feature system to allow both walking on features AND building on features; Having huge 'Static Mesh' (For those familiar with UT) bridges would be great. On top of that, what about the old topic of spherical terrain....?

*Quickly ducks out of a rotten mango's path*

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*puts on flame-proof suit*

PauloMorfeo · Post by **PauloMorfeo** » 22 Sep 2005, 07:52

GrOuNd_ZeRo wrote:We need tags that make certain colors on the texture map invisible so we can have platforms and asteroids we can build on :)

Isn't that the new ├é┬½void├é┬╗ tag added to the type map? Makes the map transparent in those areas?

GrOuNd_ZeRo · Post by **GrOuNd_ZeRo** » 22 Sep 2005, 09:37

If that's the case, we can make space maps quite easilly...

AF · Post by AF » 22 Sep 2005, 20:19

The new tag makes the entire terrain transparent from the looks of it.

If you're talking about the other voiding then you would be talking about the same feature TA had for mapmaking which is a pathfinding tool. Eitherway I suggest someone create a map that's black and try to draw an asteroid in the middle and post a screenshot of it, all above water, you'll see why it still wouldnt work if we could make parts of the map transparent, it would only work for tall blockish platforms, and even then would create unexplainable camera movement with height differences.

GrOuNd_ZeRo · Post by **GrOuNd_ZeRo** » 22 Sep 2005, 20:35

we need a way to model the bottom part of the map too so we can have 3D asteroids, or at least a way to mirror image the asteroid's top on the bottom.

AF · Post by AF » 22 Sep 2005, 20:38

The only quick fix would be water reflections which puts us back at square one.

I'd have to say that programming support for building on features is the best option, maybe combined with giving features a metal value should we want to build mines or create HW2 harvester type resourcers for any other mods or addition races.

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 22 Sep 2005, 21:25

making features be objects would be the best... you could even make whole maps be 1 feature then... yay! actuall 3D maps!!!

AF · Post by AF » 22 Sep 2005, 21:26

And nightmarish pathfinding problems ouch!

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 22 Sep 2005, 21:36

Someone was going to have to recode pathfinding anyways...

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 22 Sep 2005, 21:49

SinbadEV wrote:making features be objects would be the best... you could even make whole maps be 1 feature then... yay! actuall 3D maps!!!

I thought features were compleatly ignored by pathfinding... IOW: you can't make things walk on features, no matter how flat and soft you make your features...

Gnomre · Post by **Gnomre** » 22 Sep 2005, 23:38

No, features have a simple tag which designates them as blocking or non-blocking. That's why you can roll over the little scrap metal, but not over full corpses. There is no in-between, though.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 23 Sep 2005, 23:04

but... imagin... if there where!

But till then i suppose i will play Homeworld again

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 23 Sep 2005, 23:31

Gnome wrote:No, features have a simple tag which designates them as blocking or non-blocking. That's why you can roll over the little scrap metal, but not over full corpses. There is no in-between, though.

Do they acctually roll over? or just clip through?

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 24 Sep 2005, 06:00

clip I believe

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Regarding Final Frontier and Maps