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altaric · Post by **altaric** » 05 Jun 2006, 13:47

i have a 3.1 GHz it's not time to buy a new one yet
if the uber cons is better than an army of farks, why get flamed by others for lagging ?

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 05 Jun 2006, 14:05

alantai is completely right and another nanotower would be retarded and only encourage noobs /./

ginekolog · Post by **ginekolog** » 05 Jun 2006, 14:10

lvl2nano is good as it reduces lagg (less units-> less pathing -> less lagg in big games) in current spring engine.

Current sping engine cant handle mass of cons well.. if devs correct this then everything is fine. I jsut love my army of 50 farks

altaric · Post by **altaric** » 05 Jun 2006, 14:11

AF hasn't post ...
i don't get why you think it's bad ...

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 05 Jun 2006, 14:39

because it is?

Pxtl · Post by **Pxtl** » 05 Jun 2006, 15:03

altaric wrote:AF hasn't post ...
i don't get why you think it's bad ...

I think the fact is that a heavy-nano is mostly needed by people who play super-high-resource games that Caydr detests. A normal Nano is perfectly sufficient unless you're trying to squeeze out 5 krogs a minute.

Comp1337 · Post by **Comp1337** » 05 Jun 2006, 16:31

It doesn't have to be a high metal map.. If the matchup is really even it will escalate and eventually heavy nanos would be really useful. It wouldnt be used in every game, but it would be useful in those escalating cases.

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 05 Jun 2006, 17:22

HEAVY NANOS WOULD SUCK.

on another note; stop ARM snipers firing at air targets please.
and balance hurricanes ffs, owh and vipers

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 05 Jun 2006, 17:35

The balance I was thinking of is something like this: 15% less HP on bulldog, 20% less costs, 5% decreased damage, 5% increased fire rate, 20% increase to acceleration, 20% increase to braking, 15% increase to turn rate, 10% increase to speed, 5% decrease to model size, 10% increased scripted aiming rate.

You said this ages ago Caydr. its not exactly what i wanted (wanted main changes to golly to be a smaller damage increase and a slower aiming script with possible reductions in speed and definate nerfing of its turning) but i'm cool with it IF the 'costs' of the bulldog refer to M/E AND BT

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 05 Jun 2006, 19:03

New changes: Pitbull model shrunk 25%, Viper model size increased 25%, both units now have the same footprint, both units' damage and whatever boosted a little.

Laser beams are now slightly thinner to look more OTAish

Snipers no longer fire at air targets

Comp1337 · Post by **Comp1337** » 05 Jun 2006, 19:29

Dont change the bulldogs! They are the best tool for punching through heavy defences if you go arm imo

Drone_Fragger · Post by **Drone_Fragger** » 05 Jun 2006, 19:31

Heavy bombers are fine.

Egarwaen · Post by **Egarwaen** » 05 Jun 2006, 19:56

Comp1337 wrote:Dont change the bulldogs! They are the best tool for punching through heavy defences if you go arm imo

Read the bloody proposed changes. They're getting less powerful but also cheaper. So they'll still be good for that, but you might need some artillery.

I like the Pitbull/Viper changes.

Comp1337 · Post by **Comp1337** » 05 Jun 2006, 20:25

Egarwaen wrote:
Comp1337 wrote:Dont change the bulldogs! They are the best tool for punching through heavy defences if you go arm imo
Read the bloody proposed changes. They're getting less powerful but also cheaper. So they'll still be good for that, but you might need some artillery.

I like the Pitbull/Viper changes.

Blah! thats what i meant. they need to take a beating, otherwise they will just clog up and never punch thru..

Comp1337 · Post by **Comp1337** » 05 Jun 2006, 20:34

Drone_Fragger wrote:Heavy bombers are fine.

QFT

Dwarden · Post by **Dwarden** » 05 Jun 2006, 21:23

ginekolog wrote:lvl2nano is good as it reduces lagg (less units-> less pathing -> less lagg in big games) in current spring engine.

Current sping engine cant handle mass of cons well.. if devs correct this then everything is fine. I jsut love my army of 50 farks

wish u can transform 2x2 square from four L1 1x1 nano towers into single L2 nano tower of size 2x2 with 10% improvement ...

Archangel of Death · Post by **Archangel of Death** » 05 Jun 2006, 21:48

A lvl 2 nano will just cause people to use the same number of constructors, but just in lvl 2 nanos so they can build their krogs even uber-fasterer. You won't see them using 1 lvl 2 nano tower in place of 5 level 1's, you'll see 5 lvl 2's in place of 5 lvl 1's.

Egarwaen · Post by **Egarwaen** » 05 Jun 2006, 21:51

Comp1337 wrote:Blah! thats what i meant. they need to take a beating, otherwise they will just clog up and never punch thru..

From the look of the numbers, they still can, just not as much as a Goliath. And again, artillery.

Machiosabre · Post by **Machiosabre** » 05 Jun 2006, 21:53

Comp1337 wrote: Blah! thats what i meant. they need to take a beating, otherwise they will just clog up and never punch thru..

I agree, arm has more then enough cheap units they can pump out, the bulldog has a purpose as a semi-heavy unit.

pitbull change seems ok, don't think the vipers need to be bigger though they look perfect now.

Egarwaen · Post by **Egarwaen** » 05 Jun 2006, 21:58

Machiosabre wrote:I agree, arm has more then enough cheap units they can pump out, the bulldog has a purpose as a semi-heavy unit.

Read the changes! They're going to be cheaper, faster, more nimble, do the same damage, and still have over 4000 HP. That's stll 2/3rds of what a Goliath has now, and about a third of a Razorback.

They're still heavy, just not Goliath-miniature-L3-superheavy.

And the Viper change is so they can't be packed as tightly. It's about how much fire you can concentrate.

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