Minor Topic - Reclaiming

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 30 Apr 2006, 21:46

Units guarding another unit don't help reclaiming. I guess this should be a small fix.

Zenka · Post by **Zenka** » 30 Apr 2006, 22:27

Indeed, why did nobody mentioned it before?

Do con units help with deforming the ground? I'm not sure.

Post by SJ » 30 Apr 2006, 22:38

Only one unit at a time can reclaim from a wreckage so it doesnt matter much (to prevent the 50 con planes reclaiming a battleship wreck in a second tactic)

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 30 Apr 2006, 22:50

Yeah but there is a difference if you reclaim existing buildings.

i.e. lvl 1 mines ... 1 unit maybe slow .. but 5 togehter reclaim faster. Is there a difference between scrap and buildings?

Acidd_UK · Post by **Acidd_UK** » 30 Apr 2006, 22:54

SJ - What is the reason for that not being allowed?

jouninkomiko · Post by **jouninkomiko** » 30 Apr 2006, 22:59

Yeah I kinda am wondering that myself. I thought that was the point?

Drone_Fragger · Post by **Drone_Fragger** » 30 Apr 2006, 23:20

SJ wrote:Only one unit at a time can reclaim from a wreckage so it doesnt matter much (to prevent the 50 con planes reclaiming a battleship wreck in a second tactic)

Read.

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 01 May 2006, 00:08

weird. i think it does speed up reclaiming, but as its been said units guarding a unit reclaiming will not assist. i think i'll have to do some tests. im guessing this is to do with a bug NOiZE mentioned in OTA of if you have 3 units relcaiming a wreck u get 3x the metal (^.^)
no. it doesnt! christ i've been acting so noob, you know when u get a com corpse in AA and send 10 cons or so to reclaim it (or rezzurectors...hey is this true for rezzing as well!

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jouninkomiko · Post by **jouninkomiko** » 01 May 2006, 00:17

Drone_Fragger wrote:
SJ wrote:Only one unit at a time can reclaim from a wreckage so it doesnt matter much (to prevent the 50 con planes reclaiming a battleship wreck in a second tactic)
Read.

You're right, I do speak/read english, I shoulda done so.

I thought that was the point though? To speed up the rate of metal recovery by throwing in a lot of con mechs?

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 01 May 2006, 00:23

@Min3mat: Actually you can speed rezzing by putting multiple rezzers on a wreck, last I checked.

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 01 May 2006, 00:26

i've never tested it though. i thought the same for reclaiming till i just did a test :\

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 01 May 2006, 00:37

interestingly enough more rezzers = faster rezzing.
i hope that this is not defined in the engine so that modders can do what they will with it.

Acidd_UK · Post by **Acidd_UK** » 01 May 2006, 02:44

Drone_Fragger wrote:
SJ wrote:Only one unit at a time can reclaim from a wreckage so it doesnt matter much (to prevent the 50 con planes reclaiming a battleship wreck in a second tactic)
Read.

But why is reclaiming a battleship quickly with multiple planes a bad thing? You're risking them all on the front line, why shouldn't they be allowed to help reclaim? I still don't understand the reason for this.

patmo98 · Post by **patmo98** » 01 May 2006, 03:19

Acidd_UK wrote:But why is reclaiming a battleship quickly with multiple planes a bad thing? You're risking them all on the front line, why shouldn't they be allowed to help reclaim? I still don't understand the reason for this.

It might be because lots of con-aircraft destroy the frame rate.

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 01 May 2006, 13:43

So my massive con-fleets for buildsupport destroy framerate too?

Guess i will do some reclaiming tests today.
At least reclaiming with 10 units is faster then with 1 i'm sure about this when reclaiming enemy and own units. So i don't see a reason why guarding planes should not help reclaiming automatically.

It's pretty annoying if i always have to select all my planes to reclaim faster (loosing my guard settings) and afterwards i have to set them on guard on the main plane again.

AF · Post by AF » 01 May 2006, 14:07

Because In spring without that limitation : 50 con planes 50x the metal

krogothe · Post by **krogothe** » 01 May 2006, 14:16

1 stray missile = 50x the loss

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 01 May 2006, 14:18

I guess he refers on the bug with 50x the metal when reclaiming scrap. This is indeed a serious bug and should be fixed, but limitating reclaiming function is the wrong way imho.

Anyway yesterday i had the idea that reclaiming should be a constant progress. So if you start reclaiming you have an harvest rate. (like a production plant). If more planes are reclaiming you have a faster harvest rate.

jouninkomiko · Post by **jouninkomiko** » 01 May 2006, 16:11

/nods in agreement with Rayden

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 01 May 2006, 17:08

that would be nice.
What might also be nice (but people have their preferences, and modes of action that they are used tp) would be gradual reclamation, meaning that you don't get the reclaimed resources in a lump sum, but that would also mean that the resource value for every wreck/feature would also have to be tracked individually.

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Minor Topic - Reclaiming

Minor Topic - Reclaiming