women

[Panda]

There is no mind reading.. there are mirrorcells who give you the wrong impression, that everyone around you is a nightcold copy. If you meet animals, they have the same problem - they never realize they meet a human, the just socialize with very strange sheeps, horses, cows, dogs. For your dog - you are not a alien overlord- you are just a mysterious alpha dog. A mental dog, who wants to keep the group from drinking from the perfectly drinkable waterwell in the bathroom.

You should read more about mutualisms. You might find it interesting. Symbiotic relationships don't exactly work like that. For example, the Yucca tree and Yucca moth are 2 living things that can't live without one another and their relationship is composed of a long series of mostly positive interactions involving feedback about their health. This mutualism has lasted for millions of years.

[scrotum]

UMM!!
Cheesecan, you didn't listen!
scrotum explained it right at the start... its just that you don't understand religion!
religion is:
there is some big house with lots of young girls that want to have sex with you, if you really are desperate enough. you go there and pick them up. they get pregnant (usually the first time) and then you have to marry.. and for that you go to the big house again.

this also proves that atheists are created by the devil himself, and spit out from below the surface, to try to derail good humans. they can't reproduce them selfs, cause they would not come to that big house.

...ok, i admit that i neither had any idea of religion, before scrotum explained it here.. i had really strange ideas of it, but he knows the stuff, cause he's in there.

the situation for me is that the church somehow has to connect us with believing women

i cant get along with women that dont believe what I believe

[smoth]

lol nope, not in the long run and buddy it is a long run

[scrotum]

what?

[Cheesecan]

I think he means that in the long run, there will plenty of other things for you to disagree on. A relationship is just a series of compromises between two individuals. If you take the stance that your way is always the right way, your relationship is gonna crash and burn.

As stated before church girls want you to meet their parents and marry them. Do you really want to marry the first woman you have a relationship with? You don't strike me like that type of guy tbh. You want to catch up and have all the girls you missed out on before.

[Gota]

Just believe in nothing..than you can date any girl you want.

[Cheesecan]

Gota have you ever actually tried that? Unless you are totally non-confrontational it just won't work. There's a reason why most couples usually share a view on religion.

[Gota]

Tried what?I was kidding...do i think ill be able to coexist with a religious girl?probably not.
Mostly because i cant help but laugh inside a bit over people being religious...I just cant help it, its soo alien to me and seems so silly..

disclaimer: when i say religious i mean, religious, not just someone who believes in god since many people who live secular lives still believe in some higher power(aliens even?)...

Like if im in a religious ceremony of someone like a religious wedding or something and they ask me to wear a yamaka i got no problem with that, i can make exceptions and be polite but living with religious rules and principles on a constant basis? hell no.

[Neddie]

There is no mind reading.. there are mirrorcells who give you the wrong impression, that everyone around you is a nightcold copy. If you meet animals, they have the same problem - they never realize they meet a human, the just socialize with very strange sheeps, horses, cows, dogs. For your dog - you are not a alien overlord- you are just a mysterious alpha dog. A mental dog, who wants to keep the group from drinking from the perfectly drinkable waterwell in the bathroom.

You should read more about mutualisms. You might find it interesting. Symbiotic relationships don't exactly work like that. For example, the Yucca tree and Yucca moth are 2 living things that can't live without one another and their relationship is composed of a long series of mostly positive interactions involving feedback about their health. This mutualism has lasted for millions of years.

You're discussing two distinct topics which are not incompatible, but nonetheless do not generally overlap. Picasso isn't describing symbiosis, but rather a perspective in psychology whereby the evaluation of others is dependent upon the self and one sentient organism may perceive others as creatures like it with odd behaviour rather than members of another species. You're describing an ecological relationship between distinct organisms, where they benefit one another in a tangible sense regardless of perception. The tree is generally ignorant of the moth, and the moth lacks the sensory capacity to perceive the tree as an object or subject in itself.

[scrotum]

I think he means that in the long run, there will plenty of other things for you to disagree on. A relationship is just a series of compromises between two individuals. If you take the stance that your way is always the right way, your relationship is gonna crash and burn.

As stated before church girls want you to meet their parents and marry them. Do you really want to marry the first woman you have a relationship with? You don't strike me like that type of guy tbh. You want to catch up and have all the girls you missed out on before.

Can't seem to meet any outside church, so this has become the option. Plus whenever I am in a conversation of any depth, we see how different we are from each other in our experiences and beliefs and that usually scares them away because they have no concept of who I am.

my brother brought home a chick from his church group, and she's banging hot... gotta remember I'm 27 now and kind of feeling like I'm running out of time, and progress is slow

[Cheesecan]

27 and running outta time don't be silly now.

[TradeMark]

well its true... after 30 its hard to find anyone... theyre all married etc. and none of the teens gonna get together with 30 year old guy.. srsly. HURRY HURRY!

[Cheesecan]

Yeah, it's not like plenty of 40-something guys marry 20-something girls.

[1v0ry_k1ng]

Yeah, it's not like plenty of Rich 40-something guys marry 20-something girls.

[Cheesecan]

The way I see it he has 13 years to work on that if he can stop thinking with his dinkie.

edit: 13 years without a woman to drag you down and how can you not be rich.

[Machete234]

Trying to find girls in a bible group? you must be totally nuts!

Plus whenever I am in a conversation of any depth, we see how different we are from each other in our experiences and beliefs and that usually scares them away because they have no concept of who I am.

Arguing with people about things that are 100% in your head is for self centered assholes.
Your beliefs are not real and have nothing to do with real life.
Take yourself and you oppinions not so serious and dont tell too many people about your imaginary friend in the sky.

[Panda]

You're discussing two distinct topics which are not incompatible, but nonetheless do not generally overlap. Picasso isn't describing symbiosis, but rather a perspective in psychology whereby the evaluation of others is dependent upon the self and one sentient organism may perceive others as creatures like it with odd behaviour rather than members of another species.

I've heard of that psychological perspective, but I don't think it's quite right when you're talking about the relationship that a person has with their pet dog. I think it's silly when people think that about their pets and that people who tend to evaluate others, including creatures of another species, should look at how symbiotic relationships work. I think that the relationship between a pet owner and their dog more closely resembles that of a symbiotic relationship than pack behavior observed in wolves which seems to be a better comparison for (though not entirely accurate) that psychological perspective.

You're describing an ecological relationship between distinct organisms, where they benefit one another in a tangible sense regardless of perception. The tree is generally ignorant of the moth, and the moth lacks the sensory capacity to perceive the tree as an object or subject in itself.

The tree and moth do perceive (sense) one another, just not in the same way organisms with higher order thinking do. The Yucca Tree will abort flowers in which moths have moths have laid too many eggs and caused too much mechanical damage to the ovaries of the flower. The moths will alter their behaviors dependent upon the health of the tree and the kind of moth that they are to the benefit of the overall relationship of the two dependent species. The tree and moth, even though they are 2 different species, do perceive (as in they are able to sense) one another, they simply do not have self-awareness like we do.

[Neddie]

However, that difference is key. If they don't perceive one another as entities, they don't psychologically evaluate one another, and they are not a good example for comparison when it comes to psychological valuation and perception.

I don't disagree - people should look at ecological symbiosis and mutualism when attempting to understand interaction between organisms - but that neither directly informs nor necessarily overrides how sentient creatures understand one another. Our understanding of how two creatures cooperate in a tangible sense is not synonymous with our understanding of how two creatures perceive their interaction with one another.

[Gota]

When will this thread be locked....

[PicassoCT]

When every single one on this board has a girlfriend - then, and lonly then, can this cursed thread find peace.