WWII medical experiments performed by Japan and Germany

[PicassoCT]

Dont drink the water, they put something in that makes you forget. I dont even remember how i came here.

Dr. Fuehrers private Reserve.

[zwzsg]

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ ... sociations

[bobthedinosaur]

kind of related: but I was reading the other day about how Germany scared off a significant portion of their academic population when the NAZIs came to power due to racist ideology, which in turn they lost many people who could have helped develop their nuclear program much further than what they got to. Another mistake they made, (other than killing and scaring away a portion of resources in scientists and technicians), was they made many physicists enlist in the military instead of using them in scientific research. In many ways, Germany had at one time the potential to develop a nuclear program before the U.S., but the NAZI's political decisions hampered this potential.

[PicassoCT]

They however invented the artificial anus, and called it hitler. You cant deny that.

[bobthedinosaur]

I thought he was Austrian?

[PicassoCT]

Austrian was invented to not be responsible for the warcrimes of germany. After all they were the first to be conquered, and what a bloody resistance they delivered, standing there, at the ways to vienna, cheering to the fuehrer.

Today, they are a harmless country, while australia is famous for its wrongdoers and there cellars.

[Panda]

Today, they are a harmless country, while australia is famous for its wrongdoers and there cellars.

Why is Australia famous for cellars?

[tombom]

In many ways, Germany had at one time the potential to develop a nuclear program before the U.S., but the NAZI's political decisions hampered this potential.

Before the Nazis came to power, Germany had one of the finest education systems in the world, including at a pre-university level. They invented the university system pretty much every other country in the world used. They produced huge amounts of groundbreaking science. After the Nazis came to power the whole system was completely destroyed and turned to the purpose of crude propaganda. It's hard to describe just how completely the Nazis destroyed Germany in every respect and how self-destructive they were. Even ignoring the starkly obvious, they were just completely monstrous and had no vision for a better future. It's just...

I don't know. It's hard to conceive of how awful they were.

[bobthedinosaur]

That was the consensus of what I was reading. They might have had lots of military advancements and technology beyond many of the other countries fighting in the war (ballistic missiles, jet engines, superior tanks and rifle technology), but they totally destroyed their academics and could have had a much more cutting edge if they didn't disregard the academic system for a racist ideology.

[PicassoCT]

Today, they are a harmless country, while australia is famous for its wrongdoers and there cellars.

Why is Australia famous for cellars?

un4chanutly i cant answer that.

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[bobthedinosaur]

Austria?

[PicassoCT]

uve got to admit those austalians make pretty decent weapons...

[Panda]

It's a shame that Germany lost a lot of it's good scientists because of the war and the Nazis. They had such potential. The experiments done by the Nazis and the Japanese on the prisoners aren't examples of good science because they arose from non-legitimate skepticism. It's not difficult to see how that occurred since the Nazi's ideologies during the war included genocide.

[AF]

shhh! Their loss was our gain

[PicassoCT]

America, dont you think its time for a hitler of your own. We could use some eggheads over here

[dizekat]

Well the state of science in nazi germany was not all that good so they did not learn much of any use i suppose, but i think US did learn some from similar cold war medical experiments done to measure health effects of radiation in various circumstances such as pregnancy for which there were not enough samples from the use of nuclear weapons during world war 2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_radi ... xperiments

Russians suffered a lot of 'accidents' (like this one) as well which provided a large number of samples of chronic radiation exposure as well.

[Cheesecan]

America, dont you think its time for a hitler of your own. We could use some eggheads over here

If you add up all the genocide they have indirectly caused by supporting dictators and the casualties from US wars going back to the Vietnam War, then what you get is a track record that any psychopath such as Hitler would have been proud of.

[PicassoCT]

yeah, but you now, they caused all the mayhem in foreign countrys, and the shipped off the good stuff, meaning the people. OMG evil dictatorship, if you want to dissident and dissent, come into the land of the free. Its not enough they are stealin my oil, they are stealin my dudez. Oh, so you dont get job as nucular-technician in your country. Come into the embassy- we have green cards.

[Journier]

America, dont you think its time for a hitler of your own. We could use some eggheads over here

if America ever became controlled by a hitler like propoganda master that could get the people behind him for a war against europe/ south america.

there would be nowhere for the scientists to go other than africa, or russia or china'z. But who wants to go there? disgusting.

Europe would fall over like a house of cards, france would surrender as we step onto the shores, and ask us to make vichy france again ^_^.

Germany would fight for a few weeks and fall over due to horribly small military.

We would bomb the shit out of the Swiss till they surrendered then steal all their gold and delicious chocolates.

actually alot of good could come from this.

Good idea picasso.

As far as I understand it, human anatomy and physiology books used up until the 1980's actually had original diagrams and layouts from japanese doctors from their testings during ww2.

I remember something along those lines.

You people are always so wary of "naughty" knowledge. Knowledge that was gained by means that your small minds cant comprehend. Jews werent even considered people anymore during the Third Reichs reign. Who are you to judge what another culture did in history, to further its scientific understanding of Anatomy and Physiology? Deal with it, deny yourself any field of medicine that possibly made gains through this, and live your short life prideful in your beliefs.

Wait a second, why arent you complaining about all the corpses that were dug up after a ceremonial burial in the 1700's to understand the Anatomy of a human? Wasnt that a horrible thing to do? Or because you dont believe in god, or the dead dont matter anymore, that no longer counts as a subject of Morality? So thats just fine?

How dare we use the knowledge gained from things that might be considered morally objectionable, to further science and understanding.

hurr durr. Humanity has been doing it for thousands of years, it will not stop. Deal with it you big babies.

[Gota]

Any knowledge that could have been extracted was extracted but you cant officially support it's use.
If you officially support it it gives motivation, or indirectly supports, breaking ethical laws and doing unethical experimentation in the future.
The knowledge is used unofficially but officially it is considered a taboo.
I think this is the best solution and im sure it just happened naturally, without anyone actually deciding on it, since it makes the most sense.

@Journier
Im not necessarily saying that digging up those bones was moral or ethical, that demands some thought to be put into that question, but you cant compare it to jap and nazi experiments ,not cause its some taboo area none must touch, but cause projecting one answer about the morality of a certain act on another question about a different action is in most cases wrong.

There obviously is no clear absolute line between everything that is wrong and everything that is right and ethical but I think the majority will agree there is a big difference between digging up bones from a few centuries ago and doing forced experimentation on live subjects.