Republican health care plan, step 1: don't get sick

[Forboding Angel]

The transportation and facilities were being provided for free.

Were new houses and shit? i seem to remember it being all rather shit.

also i like how you stopped talking about healthcare and started talking about how much you fucking hate the poor.

I have already talked about healthcare. Oh and...

I am poor, you dolt.

[1v0ry_k1ng]

so, we're agreed that america is satan, what now?

[tombom]

I am poor, you dolt.

i actually realise this, which makes your posts all the sadder

[JohannesH]

so, we're agreed that america is satan, what now?

Were still looking for god though

[Panda]

so, we're agreed that america is satan, what now?

Were still looking for god though

GOD WILLS IT!

[AF]

Poor people in the US tend to be much better off than many other people in the same country, and those people who are yet still worse off, are rich compared to those living in the bottom 10% of poor countries.

Poor is a relative term, and one that depends on your perspective of income inequality.

The average person vastly underestimates income inequality. Especially in countries like the UK, or in the worst case scenario, the USA, which has the highest inequality gap of all, and in some comparisons require logarithmic scales just so that the USA marker will fit on graph

Just because you are better off and do not need it, does not mean it doesn't affect you at all, it has a HUGE impact upon the society we live in, and there are reams and reams of hard evidence linking these things.

Here is a trust in the UK pushing for greater income equality:

http://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/

Here is evidence they have amassed, fromv arious well regarded data sources:

http://www.equalitytrust.org.uk/why/evidence

They link everything from teenage pregnancy to obesity to income inequality, showing strong correlations, using multiple data sets from various well known and highly regarded sources.

I leave you with this graph:

[Gota]

That's probably just coincidence.

[Forboding Angel]

It's worth noting that Republicans want health care reform, jsut not socialized medicine. The new media has done their damndest to make it sound like reform isn't wanted.

[tombom]

OK, two not-really-partisan questions:

1) For the people in the USA, how much does your health insurance cost? What sort of cover does it give you? What have been your experiences with it?

2) Was health care reform even an issue during Bush's term? I admit to not following American politics too closely at the time.

[smoth]

1) For the people in the USA, how much does your health insurance cost? What sort of cover does it give you? What have been your experiences with it?

Generally, about 200-300 a month with 80-90% coverage of medical expenses, with something like a 500$ deductible.

2) Was health care reform even an issue during Bush's term? I admit to not following American politics too closely at the time.

it is always an issue.

[Gota]

And what is the minimal wage?

[smoth]

Dunno, 5-6 dollars? My last job was 40k a year.

[Gota]

Soo...
Those that are not successful die out and their DNA is removed from the gene pool...

[smoth]

A lot of jobs supply insurance, with you paying part of it. It is a "benefit" of working there, you do get taxed on it but you pay much less. My insurance was mostly covered by my company.

[Caydr]

Ha ha ha ha, I just thought of something, they should've bought up all the foreclosed houses in Michigan and given them to the people from New Orleans! Solve two problems at once.

[KDR_11k]

You're forgetting that in Germany, "Liberal" and "Conservative" are apparently interchangeable. Germany has two main political parties, the Liberal-Conservative party (commie trash) and the Conservative-Liberal party (right-wing lunatics).

We have five parties, social democrats (that's distinct from full socialism), conservatives, greens, liberals and socialists, they just tend to ally conservative-liberal and social democrat-green.

[AF]

Coincidence? Look at these, soem fo which even use US states

[Gota]

I was kidding...

[AF]

[Das Bruce]

I was kidding...

I'm never really sure with you.