Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
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Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
http://springrts.com/mantis/view.php?id=1436
I'm not entirely sure why this has been left broken for so long as this call-in is crucial for BA to restore the old reclaiming formula since it was changed.
Two spring.exe releases have been made but no release to fix this issue which currently prevents resurrection of partially reclaimed corpses in BA.
The only argument for not releasing a proper patch (ie not just replacing spring.exe) is that it inconveniences the playerbase, however since ~75% of the playerbase are affected by this bug it would be reasonable to force a release though to resolve it.
Thanks
I'm not entirely sure why this has been left broken for so long as this call-in is crucial for BA to restore the old reclaiming formula since it was changed.
Two spring.exe releases have been made but no release to fix this issue which currently prevents resurrection of partially reclaimed corpses in BA.
The only argument for not releasing a proper patch (ie not just replacing spring.exe) is that it inconveniences the playerbase, however since ~75% of the playerbase are affected by this bug it would be reasonable to force a release though to resolve it.
Thanks
Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
there are several reasons for why the fix for this isn't released yet:
- it wouldn't sync with 0.79
- 0.8 currently needs testing badly, there was a big merge of Tobi's lua unitscript branch which is badass but i haven't seen anybody using it, so it most likely has bugs and probably they aren't trivial
- fixing bugs in a major release takes time
IOW: wait a bit more for the planets to align. in the mean time, it'll be of great help if you could get some games going with the buildserv builds.
- it wouldn't sync with 0.79
- 0.8 currently needs testing badly, there was a big merge of Tobi's lua unitscript branch which is badass but i haven't seen anybody using it, so it most likely has bugs and probably they aren't trivial
- fixing bugs in a major release takes time
IOW: wait a bit more for the planets to align. in the mean time, it'll be of great help if you could get some games going with the buildserv builds.
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Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
Could you please point out what exactly this is about?imbaczek wrote:Tobi's lua unitscript branch
Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
Makes it possible to write unit scripts, which are now always written in the legacy BOS language (COB bytecode), in Lua.
So there was lots of refactoring of the scripting related code.
So there was lots of refactoring of the scripting related code.
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Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
That sounds very interesting - is there a wiki page or something like that where you can get more info about how this works and so on? Didn't hear a word about this yet...
Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
Not yet; still working on the Lua framework side, some example scripts, testing, and writing docs
(only engine side (C++) code is feature complete currently)

Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
I'm planning on testing it when it's available, just let me know when it's a little more complete.
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Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
Same for me - just drop a line when you think you have something ready for extensive testing... 

Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
There's something wrong with our release process if something serious like this both gets into the release and stays broken for weeks.
Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
the thing that went wrong this time:
some people were eager to use Tobi's lua unitscript branch, and pushed him to merge it into master. He said it is kind of ready, but missing documentation. but as they all said he should merge it, he did anyway. now it is in there but is not getting tested because of lack of docu for the possible users of it (the mod devs).
the moral for today:
do not give in to greed, if it will not make you happy, and cause problems for others!
more practical:
tobi knows things better then the rest.
(except when hoijui disagrees of course, but maybe not even then.. yes then.. no!)
some people were eager to use Tobi's lua unitscript branch, and pushed him to merge it into master. He said it is kind of ready, but missing documentation. but as they all said he should merge it, he did anyway. now it is in there but is not getting tested because of lack of docu for the possible users of it (the mod devs).
the moral for today:
do not give in to greed, if it will not make you happy, and cause problems for others!
more practical:
tobi knows things better then the rest.
(except when hoijui disagrees of course, but maybe not even then.. yes then.. no!)
Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
hoijui, he's talking about AllowFeatureBuildStep.
LuaCOB is neither broken for weeks nor has it been in a release yet.
Also, FYI, all old COB functionality can already be tested, and if this works still 100% right it already proves about 50% of my work to be correct. (And besides that it would allow all mods to function properly even if the Lua part appears to be 100% broken after a release.)
Besides that, spins in reverse direction should work now and can be tested, and stopspin with deceleration also should work properly in master, and can be tested.
LuaCOB is neither broken for weeks nor has it been in a release yet.

Also, FYI, all old COB functionality can already be tested, and if this works still 100% right it already proves about 50% of my work to be correct. (And besides that it would allow all mods to function properly even if the Lua part appears to be 100% broken after a release.)
Besides that, spins in reverse direction should work now and can be tested, and stopspin with deceleration also should work properly in master, and can be tested.
Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
Cool to here that "LuaCOB" is moving forwards! Great work Tobi, and whoever else is involved :).
Sean
Sean
Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
Agreed :)SeanHeron wrote:Cool to here that "LuaCOB" is moving forwards! Great work Tobi, and whoever else is involved :).
Sean
We're gonna need to fix up a lot of unit scripts for BA at some point, and it would be much nicer to do it in LUA

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Re: Can we please get the AllowFeatureBuildStep patch released
I agree. I think taking a look at the release process might be a good idea, particularly from the experiences Yokozar has seen from WINE development as they did more work on their release process.YokoZar wrote:There's something wrong with our release process if something serious like this both gets into the release and stays broken for weeks.