0.77 release lobby discussion

[bibim]

Maybe this topic isn't the perfect place for a lobby war

[Argh]

Yes. Remove plz.

[Crayfish]

Hmm. Better start a new topic.

[Tobi]

Maybe this topic isn't the perfect place for a lobby war

Now this *is* the topic for a lobby war*kuch*discussion*kuch*

I'd be happier though if I didn't have to install TASClient and other lobbies myself to check who is right and if the original subject could be discussed (!) with less retardedness. It would be silly if I had to ban developers from the developer subforum.

[AF]

It would be silly if I had to ban developers from the developer subforum.

Utterly unthinkable.

The required changes in tasclient are simply to modify a handful of string values containing relative file paths, and the corresponding values in the NSIS installer scripts.

However one could argue satirik that you should make your own tasclient installer which spring would download and run which would take care of start menu shortcuts and everything. It would make installing the latest and greatest tasclient from scratch far easier, and make distribution with spring far easier, aswell as providing a means of uninstalling and reinstalling tasclient without uninstalling spring too.

[Satirik]

tasclient only use the lobby dir, the other dirs were temp ones and are no longer used ...and the lobby dir is TASClient's dir, springlobby doesn't use it, only tasclient does, and there are currently only two lobby for spring

and btw im tired of explaining thing to AF could someone teach him how to use his brain to code instead of spamming the forum ?

[FLOZi]

It's not too much to ask that all lobby's share the 'lobby' directory and have their own subdirectory within it.

Both of you stop the pissing contest and just do the logical thing.

[AF]

Satirik, omni followed it, battlehub followed it, aflobby followed it, unity lobby followed it, why cant you?

[Satirik]

Satirik, omni followed it, battlehub followed it, aflobby followed it, unity lobby followed it, why cant you?

theses lobby don't exist anymore

[smoth]

it goes round and round, I really don't have room to talk I suppose but... this is not befitting for either of you. Af, let satirik do what he wants, you have your own lobby, just worry about that. You go on these crusades and like I said you are just chasing ghosts. Satirik, no point in wasting energy on af, just keep doing whatever you need to.

All this arguing is pointless and neither party can cry complete victim. Yes af, I am saying that you did to some degree provoke satirik's response to you. Despite what you think.

[AF]

I had logical arguements satiric had spite. While I tried to provoked a change in tasclient, I did so in order to benefit spring rather than hurt satiric, I made my case nice and clearly using non offensive language detailing what to be done how it would be done, and why including examples where it had already been done.

Now that satiric is trying to hurt me personally I see no reason why i cant take those attempts and backfire them for my own personal pleasure. Ill simply take what he throws at me and show how hes actually just trolling himself, the ultimate own goal. Satirik can stop when he likes, I on the other hand have a vested interest, entertainment.

Also since satiric started his crusade to attack my projects, my sites traffic has risen, battlehub awareness amongst the community is rising, there've been some killer quotes by people on the subject, and I have a set of wonderfully shiny new avatars ^_^ One could even say there's yet more exposure for springlobby and uberserver, numerous threads of mine are now active and productive again, and we now have a discussion in one of them regarding channel icons and crossplatform implementation, aswell as several new channel icon submissions.



Considering satiriks initial childish attempt to discredit me I believe I have profited generously from this affair =)

THANKYOU SATIRIC!!!

[smoth]

For all of his behavior and your reaction to it, you look childish and petty. Yes af, if that is a win, I am glad to be on the neutral size. It hasn't helped you, sure you have some attention from it all but is that really good attention? I think not.

[AF]

Perhaps but the effect will be shortlived and fleeting. People are more likely to remember satiriks childish strike out and backfire han my response

And if they do remember then it won't matter anyway

[smoth]

There wasn't any backfire af. You went and declaired that yourself, satirik railed on you people loled and didn't care because most people here do not care about the lobbies. They have BA, it isn't changing.

The only ones who care are the other devs and those of who want new lobby features for our projects. The unclean masses don't care about anything past BA.

[REVENGE]

An e-peen war, and regarding lobby clients at that?



This is why we can't have nice things.

[AF]

So say you were to post tonnes of images railing at me only for me to show how you failed utterly to even do that correctly you wouldn't call that a backfire?

Or if you do something in order to destroy someone elses projects only to find you've actually made them more popular and given them free advertising?

Either way you probably think I have a uber logical argument on why this is all necessary but when it comes to it the bottom line is:

people loled

I loled

and if satirik wants to continue hes welcome, my lunchtimes are just that little bit nicer because of it =)

[smoth]

As a content developer I am looking for a lobby that one day I will customize and work on modifying to suit project specific needs. I would not want to attach my project to something that will bring a bunch of drama and hassle. I do not want to use tools or utilities developed by someone who twist the rules of the forum and skirts civility so closely that he doesn't appear civil at all.

Dude, we all hate TASClient, we all know it sucks the project is a bad one but until we have one that can actually replace it someone has to maintain it. Satirik is that poor shmuck.

However, when you do not like something you nag and nag. You have been railing on TASClient for years now. It has gone to the point of excess and obsession, there is no reason to continue this. It sucks, we all know it, yeah sure. You posting to continue the drama and provoke stronger responses makes you a troll. You are bating.


The reason people are not fooling with your lobby right is that they do not like it for whatever reason. It isn't that people are ignorant that TASClient sucks. This drama doesn't help your lobby, it makes you look bad and it gives people another reason to avoid your lobby. Your persistent railing on people or projects can border on obsession.

In response to your threat via pm, I will not be intimidated and will not give you the response satirik did. So do not start with me, I really don't feel like dealing with you again. You make me want to support satirik. What you are doing is polarizing people and to me, satirik is the victim of your incessant nagging.

[AF]

I did not intend it as a threat more a logical argument. I would have sent this via private message which would have been more appropriate but you've taken it back into the forums in public

The premise being that by making posts such as the above you are taking light hearted fun and turning it into destructive negative discussion that leads to explosions and flame fests, and that simply pulling back would prevent any escalation as well as not providing satirik with a juicy target to aim at perpetuating the very thing you want to stop even further.

Smoth, you interpreted it as a threat anyway, a threat which would be very weird since you yourself would be the one carrying it out and you yourself would be the one getting what you don't want.

You seem to think I'm serious about the whole tasclient satirik thing. I'm not. But you wont read that, and there's a good chance you skim over the previous sentence or dismiss it out of hand. In your eyes I am on a crusade to the promised land, in my eyes I have a quick forum browse pull up a photoshop picture and lol at myself then get dismayed when you go all uber serious in the following post ruining everything.

Right now there is a problem. Satirik isn't on the offensive anymore if you haven't noticed, yet there are still drama going on, perhaps you should step back so we can draw a finishing line?

The satirik vs AF lulzwar ended at least a day ago, it was fab, yet your still posting to people asking them to stop telling them how idiotic they're being. We all know tasclient isn't gods gift, foreboding made sure we knew that already.

In fact why did you even comment in the first place? Even if you were wouldn't it have been far more appropriate to use a private message? Really, you have nothing to do with this and to waltz in and tell everyone how they should behave unannounced isn't going to win you brownie points, its down right condescending, that's not how you delegate peace between warring parties, even if the warring is friendly banter.

Either way me satirik and masure have all gotten our laughs out of this, and we're done, it was never serious and I've even profited from the whole affair! I don't want you railing on at me as if I'm being uber serious, and If I were uber serious do you think Id post something like this in the developer forum?



Now I don't want a falling out with you or anyone but its hard when your acting like this. Just take a step back and observe for a while. Nobodies going nuclear here but you, have a hug and a cup of coffee/tea, Im going off to get one now too ^_^

[smoth]

yep, you did twist what I said around, exactly what you did with satirik. Same tactic same tone, same behavior that is completely out of character for you. I'll not play these games with you. It's cool man, welcome to my ignorelist, you are not alone, otherside and scratch are here with you.

[AF]

*facepalm*

Im sorry if you cannot accept that I have a different viewpoint on things.