WALL-E Rocks.

[Zoombie]

Also, they had a romantic zippo lighter scene!

romantic.

Zippo.

Lighter.

[Zoy64]

i saw the first showing of Wall-e (yes, i got the Wall-e hat and foam finger...) and all i can say is "Pixar has done it again." you must be a complete idiot and a ginormous moron not to see it. Argh has described it perfectly, it is "preachy", but not to the point of disgust. it has it's subtle hints of where the human race is progressing (the whole garbage thing) but i think that it was a nice touch that gets you aware of the planet we live in.

all in all, i give Wall-e a 10 out of 10 stars.

[Decimator]

In response to the garbage problem the developed nations have, I like this answer: http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2 ... et-garbage

[smoth]

zoy called someone else an idiot.... I think I have seen god.

[Zoombie]

Hehe...I like it, Deci.

And even if the future brings a happy, healthy one with no trash and no fat bastards, I still think Wall-E's gonna be thought of as an awesome movie.

I mean...WWI is no longer a big issue, but All Quiet on the Western front is still awesome.

Not that Wall-E and AQOTWF are at all comparable...

[Forboding Angel]

What is it about humanity that wants to prove itself to be such a blight upon the universe?

In case no one noticed, we take up a very small portion.

What I object to is stupidity being taught to children. It's easy enough to make a kids movie that is funny for everyone without shoving a political/religeous agenda. Case in point: Shrek, cars, and a million others.

Look, your trash is your own problem, deal with it. For myself, I want one of the plasma converters. Clean AND entertaining

Me and deci were discussing those about a year back. It would be great to see them implemented on a small scale so that the fears that they are not what they seem could be put to rest.

I have an uncle who designed a Hydrogen powered care (splitting O2 from H), but at the time, gas prices really weren't an issue so he couldn't get any major manufacturers to bite on the idea. Subsequently he gave up and went on to other things. But the point of this little excerpt is the byproducts. Obviously, it's water (in various forms).

Now self sustaining, who's to say it isn't possible. Science is magic, this is a historical fact (if you don't understand the meaning of that, then you really need to lurk moar), however look at what it's doing. It in some ways is creating a sun, that isn't being asked to power anything, just to incinerate stuff (I assume that at that level the garbage ends up acting as fuel). And the byproduct is something that has many applicable uses.

If the damn liberal socialists around the world would stfu about the end of the world and invest their energies in something useful then that would be something, but as it is, for all their talk it is only so much hot air (get the pun?) as they go to their conferences around the world in their gulfstreams. Yet they are incapable of seeing their own hypocrisy.

Meh, lolhumanity.

Edit: Splitting is the wrong term methinks, separating is a better word for it. The point is that it did this internally, negating the need for a hydrogen fuel cell.

[Zoombie]

Actually, Forb, the best thing about the movie Wall-E is that it shows that, yes, humanity can actually...you know...fix things. We're not all a bunch of blind, fat, incompetent idiots...even if we look that way at a first glance.


Sometimes, we just need a little wake up to our own potentiality.

And I'm being so literal right now. That's exactly what happens in the movie. *Exactly*

I personally think the future Wall-E shows is, well, unlikely. It's probably going to be something more of a "quality of life goes up, but our ability to do mean things to one another increases alongside it"

But it's still a *really* good movie.

[Forboding Angel]

I'd be interested to see it in that case. I don't have much use for doom and gloom end of the world as we know it proclamations, I'm more interested in the problem solving portion of it, however, the "Problem" is being massively overstated in most major outlets.

[SwiftSpear]

Actually, Forb, the best thing about the movie Wall-E is that it shows that, yes, humanity can actually...you know...fix things. We're not all a bunch of blind, fat, incompetent idiots...even if we look that way at a first glance.


Sometimes, we just need a little wake up to our own potentiality.

And I'm being so literal right now. That's exactly what happens in the movie. *Exactly*

I personally think the future Wall-E shows is, well, unlikely. It's probably going to be something more of a "quality of life goes up, but our ability to do mean things to one another increases alongside it"

But it's still a *really* good movie.

I like how we need a pixar movie to show us we're not retarded.

[pintle]

Forb your epic generalistations are not only offensive to me, and most likely the vast majority of moderate Europeans who have done even a tiny amount of research into environmental issues (which extend well beyond climate change/global warming), but they also serve to somewhat humoursly endorse the cultural stereotypes attached to Southern Republicans.

I am not inferring that you are exemplary of these stereotypes, but your "damn liberal socialists" bull is just asking for me to respond in kind.

Incidentally, as for our tiny impact on the environment as a species, which other species has been directly responsible for 50% of the number of animals we have wiped off the face of the planet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desertification
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6730045.stm

I'm not wasting any more of my lunch break finding links to respond to your rhetoric, I only posted here because I've seen you mocking anybody concerned about the environment along the lines of "lol lefty loony" in a couple of threads, and feel obliged to at least make a vague semblance of an intelligent retort.

Sorry to derail/flame

[rattle]

What I object to is stupidity being taught to children.

Speaking of religion...

[Forboding Angel]

Religion whether you agree with it or not, is a set of ideals at it's base form.

Not really equatable, however you are free to raise your own children the way that you wish. Religion is not forced upon children in government schooling (at least here), however, scientific fallacies and political posturing, is.

Pintle you nub, I'm talking about american liberal-socialists. Believe me, there is a difference.

50%? Orly? And how many of those were micro-organisms and species that would have been wiped out by nature anyway? 49%, yeah. I rest my case.

SO humans are evil because we feed off of other animals? Well, it's survival of the fittest isn't it? Besides, most of these animals are protected now anyway.

If a micro-organism goes extinct today, how is your life affected/effected tomorrow? You are affected because you feel bad for the little twit? I can name off a few more things I would love to go extinct:

Mosquitos
Chiggers
Ticks
Baby Ticks
Houseflies (course spiders like them so there may be a useful purpose for them after all)
Parasites of any kind

Yeah, while you may get all broken up about it, I welcome the demise of any and all of the above.

[tombom]

Religion whether you agree with it or not, is a set of ideals at it's base form.

Not really equatable, however you are free to raise your own children the way that you wish. Religion is not forced upon children in government schooling (at least here), however, scientific fallacies and political posturing, is.

Pintle you nub, I'm talking about american liberal-socialists. Believe me, there is a difference.

50%? Orly? And how many of those were micro-organisms and species that would have been wiped out by nature anyway? 49%, yeah. I rest my case.

SO humans are evil because we feed off of other animals? Well, it's survival of the fittest isn't it? Besides, most of these animals are protected now anyway.

If a micro-organism goes extinct today, how is your life affected/effected tomorrow? You are affected because you feel bad for the little twit? I can name off a few more things I would love to go extinct:

Mosquitos
Chiggers
Ticks
Baby Ticks
Houseflies (course spiders like them so there may be a useful purpose for them after all)
Parasites of any kind

Yeah, while you may get all broken up about it, I welcome the demise of any and all of the above.

You don't have a clue about biology do you? man

[pintle]

Religion whether you agree with it or not, is a set of ideals at it's base form.

Not really equatable, however you are free to raise your own children the way that you wish. Religion is not forced upon children in government schooling (at least here), however, scientific fallacies and political posturing, is.

Pintle you nub, I'm talking about american liberal-socialists. Believe me, there is a difference.

50%? Orly? And how many of those were micro-organisms and species that would have been wiped out by nature anyway? 49%, yeah. I rest my case.

SO humans are evil because we feed off of other animals? Well, it's survival of the fittest isn't it? Besides, most of these animals are protected now anyway.

If a micro-organism goes extinct today, how is your life affected/effected tomorrow? You are affected because you feel bad for the little twit? I can name off a few more things I would love to go extinct:

Mosquitos
Chiggers
Ticks
Baby Ticks
Houseflies (course spiders like them so there may be a useful purpose for them after all)
Parasites of any kind

Yeah, while you may get all broken up about it, I welcome the demise of any and all of the above.

You were not referring to American liberal socialists as you stated specifically "around the world" which would *imply* you were talking about people... around the world? Then again I am a nub.

I was going to specificy larger organisms, but i assumed a certain level of intelligence on your part.

Please specifically cite which "scientific fallacies" are taught in schools, no joke, I would love to know more of this.

In answer to how my life is affected by extinction of micro-organisms:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiversity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecosystem

[SwiftSpear]

Incidentally, as for our tiny impact on the environment as a species, which other species has been directly responsible for 50% of the number of animals we have wiped off the face of the planet?

isn't it prosumptious to assume other species helped with wiping out 50% of all the species we've wiped out. They probably wiped out thier own species that we had nothing to do with.

We wiped out 100% of all the species we've wiped off the face of the planet acctually... Which is maby 1-2% of all the species that have gone extinct while humans have been around.

[Forboding Angel]

@ tombom, you take yourself too seriously. In case you didn't notice, that was a list of common pests that we all wish we didn't have to deal with.

@ pintle, you are correct, I misspoke there, I was referring to american, but for whatever reason I wrote "around the world". As political leanings tend to vary in description depending what country you are in.

Speaking of scientific fallacies

...which is the product of four billion years of evolution.

Uh huh, prove it. Better to admit that scientists really know very little about how the universe came to be. And just cause you think darwanistic evolution is a pile of crap, doesn't automatically make you a creationist - Remember that. Also keep in mind that Evolution is a theory, not a law.

[rattle]

You can't really compare fairy tales to theories now can you.

[SwiftSpear]

Speaking of scientific fallacies

...which is the product of four billion years of evolution.

Uh huh, prove it. Better to admit that scientists really know very little about how the universe came to be. And just cause you think darwanistic evolution is a pile of crap, doesn't automatically make you a creationist - Remember that. Also keep in mind that Evolution is a theory, not a law.

Evolution is proven to exist... it's existence doesn't really immediately prove it's role in the the formation of the world, but there is some evidence towards that (different evolutions shown in the fossil record and what not). It's widely excepted because it's the only known system that could explain the formation of species.

If there are two guys on a completely abandoned island, and when they are found one of them has 15 stab wounds to the chest. There's no evidence to link the killing to the other guy, there's no blood left on the living guy's knife, no finger prints or DNA on the body, and the living guy just says that he found the other guy that way, he has no idea how it happened. Is it safe therefore to assume that it was God or aliens that killed the other guy?

[Decimator]

Is it safe to assume that the stab wounds just appeared by themselves?

[Zoy64]

but then, if evolution was how we came to be, why can't scientists find the "ape-man" skeleton? what about the "bird-fish" remains? now, if they could prove that evolution did happen and that we came from single-cell organisms that magically appeared on earth which in turn came from an accident; then i will no longer be a Creationist.