Nomic 3

[lurker]

You can add a title, if you are an uncreative cretin. But you hadn't.

[rattle]

None of the rules state that I have to quote the proposal.

[manored]

Well rule 216 says something about leaving it clear to what motion you are voting, but its somewhat unclear... doesnt haves the word quote tough :)

[lurker]

I wrote the rule, perhaps I can explain. Sometimes you can have a nomination that fails, and later get a new nomination. At the same time, most voting period votes are just yes or no. So, the requirement is there to specify what nomination you're voting for, so votes aren't misplaced. There is nothing in the rule about quoting, that's just the procedure I happened to follow that round.

[Saktoth]

Really, all those votes should be counted, because those proposals were the only proposals made during that period and the only nomination given out was KDR's.

Thus, it is quite clear which is being voted for.

[SwiftSpear]

Vote 317 has been rejected.

Player rankings:
lurker - 65 (proposed: rule 209, 216) {10}
KDR-11k - 20 {3} (proposed: rule 215
Peet - 30 {4}
Decimator - 10 {2}
SinbadEV - 70 (proposed: rule 211){7}
neddiedrow - 85 {9}
Saktoth - 10 {1}
aegis - 110 (proposed: rule 205, rule 210) {11}
Felix the Cat - 70(proposed: rule 206) {8}
Erom - 20 {2}
nemppu - 40 {5}(proposed: rule 213)
manored - 20{2}
Ixoran - 30 {3}
rattle - 10 {1}
SwiftSpear the rhymey - -100

Current list of mutable rules:

• 201 - Every vote in which a player is on the victor's side (the vote the player issued was the same as the winning vote) that player shall receive 10 points and the player whose vote decides which is the victors side, will have the 10 points due him summarily denied
• 202 - While no player has 500 points or greater the game will continue
• 203 - The player who has been on the victor's side the highest number of times at the end of the game is the winner
• 204 - The game will end when there is no rule requiring it's continuation
• 205 - To win the game, a player must have originally submitted one of the current game's rules in a proposal during the current game
• 206 - All posts by a Judge must be in hot pink, color code #FF0080
• 208 - To make the game a little more fun, every voting period a poster can have a valid vote numbering only at 1
• 209 - Swiftspear the rhymey, despite not being a player, has as of this post a score of -100 for interpreting rule 108 in a loose way so to exclude votes.
• 210 - if a player nominates a proposal then votes against it and it fails to pass, they gain 5 additional points and the original submitter of the proposal loses 5 points. (prop: aegis)
• 211 - When a proposal is nominated for vote, A second existing proposal of the nominating parties choosing may be included as part of the motion (such that the motion, should it be accepted, will bring two new rules or two separate addendum to a current rule or any combination thereof into play) (prop: SinbadEV)
• 212 - If a vote is initiated, all proposals are dead, all nominations are dead, old nominations must be created new at the end of the vote, new nominations may not be issued until the vote is complete
• 213 - to all judge's posts an image added, of a chicken, fried.(prop: nemppu)
• 214 - The player currently leading in victorious votes shall be given the title of "numpty", and to liven the game, this title must be always used in reference to the player and at the end of his post, so he is abused. ALSO: In the interest of charity, whenever a player casts one of the (up to 7) valid votes for or against a motion, they must specify another active player to nominate for promotion. Each of these nominations must contain a title and can be enacted by a different player seconding the nomination during the period between a proposals acceptance and the opening of the next round of voting. To avoid confusion the titles will be granted in an additional post by the judge following the start of a vote for a motion. Valid Titles must be chosen from This Article. An active player is a player who has posted in the thread at least once.
• 215 - A proposal must never change its effect between creation and being put into effect, e.g. the people affected by it must be determined by actions taking place before the proposition or after it takes effect. (prop: KDR_11k)
• 216 - A player may issue their vote outside of a designated voting period, if they list a specific nomination whose motion-to-be they are voting for. To be fair to all, the nominator cannot be the first to vote in this way. (prop: lurker)

We are back on proposal time.

[Saktoth]

Proposal:
All immutable rules be Transmogrified into mutable rules.

[aegis]

pink

[Felix the Cat]

Proposal:
Each player begins with 15 Hit Points; this number may not go above 15 or below 0. With every valid post having an effect on the game (these being proposals, nominations, votes, seconds for titles), a player may either: Smite any other active player, reducing the Smitten player's Hit Point total by 1; or Heal any other active player, increasing the Healed player's Hit Point total by 2. Whenever a player's Hit Point total is equal to zero, that player's posts may have no effect on the game (all proposals, nominations, votes, seconds for titles, and other game actions are invalid). A player with zero Hit Points may not win the game.

[Felix the Cat]

I nominate Saktoth's proposal and include my own.

[KDR_11k]

I vote yes and nominate KDR for the title of Ph.D.

I second that

[Saktoth]

I vote yea on the combined Saktoth/Felix proposal/nomination to the effect of:

All immutable rules be Transmogrified into mutable rules.
Each player begins with 15 Hit Points; this number may not go above 15 or below 0. With every valid post having an effect on the game (these being proposals, nominations, votes, seconds for titles), a player may either: Smite any other active player, reducing the Smitten player's Hit Point total by 1; or Heal any other active player, increasing the Healed player's Hit Point total by 2. Whenever a player's Hit Point total is equal to zero, that player's posts may have no effect on the game (all proposals, nominations, votes, seconds for titles, and other game actions are invalid). A player with zero Hit Points may not win the game.

And nominate Felix for the title of Dungeon Master.

[lurker]

I vote yea on the Felsak alliance motion and nominate rattle to Commissar.

[KDR_11k]

I vote abstention on said proposal.

[Neddie]

I too abstain.

[Saktoth]

Why so abstain? It doesnt net you any points or have any other effect other than stating your neutrality, does it?

Anyway, both abstentions were invalid as they didnt include nominations to titles.

[lurker]

In the interest of charity, whenever a player casts one of the (up to 7) valid votes for or against a motion, they must specify another active player to nominate for promotion.

for or against

But yes, I am also confused by this.

[KDR_11k]

I don't have an oppinion on the matter so I figured I could just as well do that .

[Felix the Cat]

I nominate Saktoth's proposal and include my own.

I vote yes to this nominated proposal and nominate Saktoth for the title of Marquess.

[rattle]

I vote yes on Felix/Saktoths proposal...

All immutable rules be Transmogrified into mutable rules.
Each player begins with 15 Hit Points; this number may not go above 15 or below 0. With every valid post having an effect on the game (these being proposals, nominations, votes, seconds for titles), a player may either: Smite any other active player, reducing the Smitten player's Hit Point total by 1; or Heal any other active player, increasing the Healed player's Hit Point total by 2. Whenever a player's Hit Point total is equal to zero, that player's posts may have no effect on the game (all proposals, nominations, votes, seconds for titles, and other game actions are invalid). A player with zero Hit Points may not win the game.

...and nominate Felix for promotion by seconding the title of Dungeon Master. (thank you lurker )