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Nomic 3

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What is Nomic?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic
Basically nomic is a game, like any other. The objective is to win. The only marked difference is in nomic, there really are no "rules" per say, the whole game is making and remaking rules to your own advantage. So if my opponent is about to win by getting the most points, I make a rule that makes points invalid, or if I'm about to win for playing the longest, my opponent will make a rule that gives him the advantage as well. The only real "rule" is that you must follow the rules that are currently in place, whatever they may be.

Lobby Channel: #nomic

The first nomic thread

Terms in Context:
Proposal: Any suggestion for a rule
Motion: A proposal to add a New Rule or amend or delete a current rule. A passed motion is a rule
Static Rules: Rules that cannot be changed within a round
Immutable Rules: Rules that cannot be changed until they are made mutable
Mutable Rules: Rules that can be modified or deleted by a motion
Transmogrify: To amend a rule so that it changes from Immutable to Mutable or from Mutable to Immutable.
Paradox: A state in the game where the rules do not allow a player to effectively continue playing the game.
Dead: Stricken from play. No longer valid in the game.

Static Rules:
  • 001 - Static Rules cannot be changed, deleted or amended (this includes no transmorgification)
  • 002 - All posts must follow the general forum rules and the laws of Canada.
  • 003 - All new Rules are Mutable
  • 004 - A Immutable rule can only be amended by transmogrifying it to a mutable rule by a separate motion.
  • 005 - Spring moderators have the right to delete any post at any time that is not in accordance with the static rules. Spring moderators ceed no moderation rights for the progression of the game


Immutable Rules:
  • 100 - In the case of paradox, and ONLY in the case of paradox, which shall be decided by The Judge/judges and the 5 most active players, The Judge/judges may change the rules at thier discression until the paradox is no long in effect
  • 101 - SwiftSpear is a Judge
  • 102 - All Registered Spring Forum members who are not Judges are Players
  • 103 - Any post containing a suggestion for a motion is a proposal
  • 104 - Any proposal may be nominated by any player who did not make said proposal
  • 105 - A proposal is valid when: It contains at least 5 words, has fewer than 10 grammatical and spelling mistakes (all of which must be correctable by the judge) and does not conflict with existing rules. The judges' opinion as to the validity of a post is final.
  • 106 - The first proposal that is valid and has been nominated at least once, the judge will make that proposal a motion and initiate a vote
  • 108 - In order for a motion to pass, 4 votes must be issued in approval of said motion
  • 109 - In order for a motion to fail, either 4 votes must be issued in opposition of said motion, or the either the judge, or the proposing player may withdraw the motion after 12 hours have past in deadlock
  • 110 - The judge may veto the appointment of any new judge
  • 111 - The judge may veto the removal of any judge
  • 112 - All new rules are mutable


Mutable Rules:
  • 201 - Every vote in which a player is on the victor's side (the vote the player issued was the same as the winning vote) that player shall receive 10 points and the player whose vote decides which is the victors side, will have the 10 points due him summarily denied
  • 202 - While no player has 500 points or greater the game will continue
  • 203 - The player who has been on the victor's side the highest number of times at the end of the game is the winner
  • 204 - The game will end when there is no rule requiring it's continuation
  • 205 - To win the game, a player must have originally submitted one of the current game's rules in a proposal during the current game
  • 206 - All posts by a Judge must be in hot pink, color code #FF0080
  • 208 - To make the game a little more fun, every voting period a poster can have a valid vote numbering only at 1
  • 209 - Swiftspear the rhymey, despite not being a player, has as of this post a score of -100 for interpreting rule 108 in a loose way so to exclude votes.
  • 210 - if a player nominates a proposal then votes against it and it fails to pass, they gain 5 additional points and the original submitter of the proposal loses 5 points. (prop: aegis)
  • 211 - When a proposal is nominated for vote, A second existing proposal of the nominating parties choosing may be included as part of the motion (such that the motion, should it be accepted, will bring two new rules or two separate addendum to a current rule or any combination thereof into play) (prop: SinbadEV)
  • 212 - If a vote is initiated, all proposals are dead, all nominations are dead, old nominations must be created new at the end of the vote, new nominations may not be issued until the vote is complete
  • 213 - to all judge's posts an image added, of a chicken, fried.(prop: nemppu)
  • 214 - The player currently leading in victorious votes shall be given the title of "numpty", and to liven the game, this title must be always used in reference to the player and at the end of his post, so he is abused. ALSO: In the interest of charity, whenever a player casts one of the (up to 7) valid votes for or against a motion, they must specify another active player to nominate for promotion. Each of these nominations must contain a title and can be enacted by a different player seconding the nomination during the period between a proposals acceptance and the opening of the next round of voting. To avoid confusion the titles will be granted in an additional post by the judge following the start of a vote for a motion. Valid Titles must be chosen from This Article. An active player is a player who has posted in the thread at least once.
  • 215 - A proposal must never change its effect between creation and being put into effect, e.g. the people affected by it must be determined by actions taking place before the proposition or after it takes effect. (prop: KDR_11k)
  • 216 - A player may issue their vote outside of a designated voting period, if they list a specific nomination whose motion-to-be they are voting for. To be fair to all, the nominator cannot be the first to vote in this way. (prop: lurker)


Summary: To be repopulated when rules stabilize
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Re: Nomic 3

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Proposal: All future proposals must be worded as questions.
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Re: Nomic 3

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Proposal: To win the game, a player must have originally submitted one of the current game's rules in a proposal during the current game.
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Re: Nomic 3

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Proposal: To lose the game, a player must read this post.
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Re: Nomic 3

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I nominate Aegis' proposal for voting on the grounds that it is entirely reasonable.
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Re: Nomic 3

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Ok. The first motion to go up for a vote is now in action. All proposals are now dead.

Motion 301: To win the game, a player must have originally submitted one of the current game's rules in a proposal during the current game.

Proposed by: aegis

Any poster may vote either for or against the current motion. If the motion passes it will become a rule. A player voting for a passed motion will receive 10 points, a player voting against a failed motion will receive 10 points. The first side to reach 4 votes wins.
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Re: Nomic 3

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I vote in favor of motion 301


Current ranking for motion 301:
For - 1 (SwiftSpear)
Against - 0
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Re: Nomic 3

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I vote Yea on 301.
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Re: Nomic 3

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I vote YES for motion 301.
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Re: Nomic 3

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Current ranking for motion 301:
For - 3 (SwiftSpear, Neddie, Aegis)
Against - 0

[edit] Just a heads up, we have a channel in lobby at #nomic

Feel free to drop by and chat, or get questions answered.
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Re: Nomic 3

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I vote Yes on 301
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Re: Nomic 3

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Vote 301 has been accepted.

Player rankings:
SinbadEV - 10
Neddie - 10
aegis - 10 (proposed: rule 205)

Current list of mutable rules:
  • 201 - Every vote in which a player is on the victor's side (the vote the player issued was the same as the winning vote) that player shall receive 10 points
  • 202 - While no player has 100 points or greater the game will continue
  • 203 - The player who has been on the victor's side the highest number of times at the end of the game is the winner
  • 204 - The game will end when there is no rule requiring it's continuation
  • 205 - To win the game, a player must have originally submitted one of the current game's rules in a proposal during the current game


We are back on proposal time.
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Re: Nomic 3

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Proposal: The player with the highest number of points is a "Wombat" in addition to being a player.
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Re: Nomic 3

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Proposal: The player with the lowest number of words on average in his or her posts including this one to this point loses all points accrued thus far.
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Re: Nomic 3

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Proposal:
All posts by a Judge must be in hot pink, color code #FF0080.
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Re: Nomic 3

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I nominate Felix's proposal on the grounds that it is entirely hilarious and I am truly happy to see him in the thread.
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Re: Nomic 3

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Proposal: All proposals, in order to be accepted, must include the letters Q, Z, and X, at least once each.
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Re: Nomic 3

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A vote is in action. All proposals are now dead.

Motion 302: All posts by a Judge must be in hot pink, color code #FF0080.

Proposed by: Felix the Cat

Any poster may vote either for or against the current motion. If the motion passes it will become a rule. A player voting for a passed motion will receive 10 points, a player voting against a failed motion will receive 10 points. The first side to reach 4 votes wins.
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Re: Nomic 3

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I vote yea on 302.
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Re: Nomic 3

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I vote Yes on 302
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