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Nomic 3

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SinbadEV
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Re: Nomic 3

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I note Nay, Nominate manored for title of Naib
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rattle
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Re: Nomic 3

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I vote nay as well and nominate manored for the title of naive.
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SwiftSpear
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Re: Nomic 3

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Vote 315 has been rejected.

Player rankings:
lurker - 45 (proposed: rule 209) {8}
KDR-11k - 20 {3} (proposed: rule 215
Peet - 30 {3}
Decimator - 10 {2}
SinbadEV - 70 (proposed: rule 211){7}
neddiedrow - 75 {7}
aegis - 100 (proposed: rule 205, rule 207, rule 210) {10}
Felix the Cat - 50(proposed: rule 206) {6}
Erom - 20 {2}
nemppu - 30 {3}(proposed: rule 213)
manored - 20{2}
Ixoran - 30 {3}
SwiftSpear the rhymey - -100

Current list of mutable rules:
  • 201 - Every vote in which a player is on the victor's side (the vote the player issued was the same as the winning vote) that player shall receive 10 points and the player whose vote decides which is the victors side, will have the 10 points due him summarily denied
  • 202 - While no player has 500 points or greater the game will continue
  • 203 - The player who has been on the victor's side the highest number of times at the end of the game is the winner
  • 204 - The game will end when there is no rule requiring it's continuation
  • 205 - To win the game, a player must have originally submitted one of the current game's rules in a proposal during the current game
  • 206 - All posts by a Judge must be in hot pink, color code #FF0080
  • 207 - Proposals must contain rhyme
  • 208 - To make the game a little more fun, every voting period a poster can have a valid vote numbering only at 1
  • 209 - Swiftspear the rhymey, despite not being a player, has as of this post a score of -100 for interpreting rule 108 in a loose way so to exclude votes.
  • 210 - if a player nominates a proposal then votes against it and it fails to pass, they gain 5 additional points and the original submitter of the proposal loses 5 points. (prop: aegis)
  • 211 - When a proposal is nominated for vote, A second existing proposal of the nominating parties choosing may be included as part of the motion (such that the motion, should it be accepted, will bring two new rules or two separate addendum to a current rule or any combination thereof into play) (prop: SinbadEV)
  • 212 - If a vote is initiated, all proposals are dead, all nominations are dead, old nominations must be created new at the end of the vote, new nominations may not be issued until the vote is complete
  • 213 - to all judge's posts an image added, of a chicken, fried.(prop: nemppu)
  • 214 - The player currently leading in victorious votes shall be given the title of "numpty", and to liven the game, this title must be always used in reference to the player and at the end of his post, so he is abused. ALSO: In the interest of charity, whenever a player casts one of the (up to 7) valid votes for or against a motion, they must specify another active player to nominate for promotion. Each of these nominations must contain a title and can be enacted by a different player seconding the nomination during the period between a proposals acceptance and the opening of the next round of voting. To avoid confusion the titles will be granted in an additional post by the judge following the start of a vote for a motion. Valid Titles must be chosen from This Article. An active player is a player who has posted in the thread at least once.
  • 215 - A proposal must never change its effect between creation and being put into effect, e.g. the people affected by it must be determined by actions taking place before the proposition or after it takes effect. (prop: KDR_11k)


We are back on proposal time.

Sorry about the title post, I forgot, I won't forget next time.
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KDR_11k
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Re: Nomic 3

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I propose rule 206 to be made immutable.

EDIT: Bah, this needs a rhyme... I could add one any time.
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Re: Nomic 3

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Again, rule 112 is a usurper to the holy might of rule 003.

Edit: That doesn't rhyme, KDR. :evil:

Edit to react to edit: Hmm, so the whole post counts as the proposal and you can put the rhyme anywhere in it? Interesting.
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Re: Nomic 3

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It does now.
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Erom
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Re: Nomic 3

Post by Erom »

cat bat rat

I propose:

The first player possessing an accepted title to vote on a proposal can, at his discretion, veto the additional proposal attached to that vote by the power of rule 211.
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lurker
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Re: Nomic 3

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Apparently I've been misunderstanding the way rule 201 works. But I want to know how this happened. I thought 'vote-ninja'ing to 'decide which is the victors side' meant voting between three yeas and three nays. Was I mistaken? If not, was the purpose of the rule meant to go beyond that or was a modified rule mistakenly applied?
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Re: Nomic 3

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I propose, from a position approximating sweet repose, that before each day draws to a close and our Australian friends begin to doze, a summary should be posted under my nose.
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SwiftSpear
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Re: Nomic 3

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lurker wrote:Apparently I've been misunderstanding the way rule 201 works. But I want to know how this happened. I thought 'vote-ninja'ing to 'decide which is the victors side' meant voting between three yeas and three nays. Was I mistaken? If not, was the purpose of the rule meant to go beyond that or was a modified rule mistakenly applied?
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The rule doesn't specify that it's only in the case of a split vote. The rule actually doesn't mention vote ninjaing at all, it simply says that the winning vote doesn't receive 10 points. You lost 5 points because KDR nominated your proposal and then voted against it. However, dispite your poor point showing, you still got clocked up one more vote on which you were on the winning side.
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Re: Nomic 3

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SwiftSpear wrote:The rule actually doesn't mention vote ninjaing at all, it simply says that the winning vote doesn't receive 10 points.
But the proposal did. I think I misunderstood it anyway.

I wasn't disagreeing with how the rule itself works.



And I'm going to keep bugging you,
'bout 112 / 003,
until you respond,
or rhyme pi, with a tree.
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Re: Nomic 3

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He had a summary of how the rule works under the rule which I disincluded, because it didn't actually change the function of the rule at all, and it was obnoxiously long. The summary said "to prevent vote ninjaing" It didn't say "only in the case of vote ninjaing"
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Re: Nomic 3

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Which I accounted for in my first post on the topic. Anyway...

112.
003.
Which one shall it be?
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SwiftSpear
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Re: Nomic 3

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I may remove 112 later, since it's superfluous, but it doesn't really matter. In theory 112 could be made mutable and ammended to do something different, as long as it still doesn't violate rule 003.
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Felix the Cat
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Re: Nomic 3

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I propose:
Delete Rule 207
It's annoying us to heaven.
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rattle
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Re: Nomic 3

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Where are my ten points?
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lurker
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Re: Nomic 3

Post by lurker »

Roses are red,
violets are blue,
this proposal has a rhyme external,
since following my text is apparently infernal.

Proposal:
A player may issue their vote outside of a designated voting period, if they list a specific nomination whose motion-to-be they are voting for. To be fair to all, the nominator cannot be the first to vote in this way.
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Re: Nomic 3

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rattle wrote:Where are my ten points?
Voting ends when the first four votes on a side have been made, and only three of those get 10 points. See also: rule 209
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Re: Nomic 3

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lurker wrote:Roses are red,
violets are blue,
this proposal has a rhyme external,
since following my text is apparently infernal.

Proposal:
A player may issue their vote outside of a designated voting period, if they list a specific nomination whose motion-to-be they are voting for. To be fair to all, the nominator cannot be the first to vote in this way.
Felix the Cat wrote:I propose:
Delete Rule 207
It's annoying us to heaven.
Combine like Voltron to be nominated. In the case that Lurker's proposal is invalid I nominate just Felix's.
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Re: Nomic 3

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Titles
Peet - Nanny
nemppu - Mother Superior
Lurker - Indlovuzaki (Great She-Elephant)
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