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Felix the Cat
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There's the "women should be equal to men" feminism.
Then there's the "women should be more equal than men" feminism.
I think that the former feminism has been successful, and is pretty much finished, at least in the US. There are still some disparities, but a lot of them are explained by the physical and cultural differences between women and men. For example, many people point to the disparity in wages between women and men. However, this is explained by a key physical difference: women have children, men don't. If 75% of women in the workforce take one year of maternity leave, which puts them one year behind comparable men in pay raises and the like, then of course the average pay for a woman will be less than the average pay for a man.
Then there's the "women should be more equal than men" feminism.
I think that the former feminism has been successful, and is pretty much finished, at least in the US. There are still some disparities, but a lot of them are explained by the physical and cultural differences between women and men. For example, many people point to the disparity in wages between women and men. However, this is explained by a key physical difference: women have children, men don't. If 75% of women in the workforce take one year of maternity leave, which puts them one year behind comparable men in pay raises and the like, then of course the average pay for a woman will be less than the average pay for a man.
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SwiftSpear
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I don't see sex equality as "done". The framework is set in place, but the majority of CEO's are still male, where I work all the cashiers are female and the computer tech's are male. However, this is more due to the fact that there are still cultural difference that are for whatever reason accepted by most people, and that there will be at least a 1 generation delay before position equality will become more common, simply because history doesn't allow trends to shift in a day without violence.
If females were to apply for the tech jobs they wouldn't be refused, but they don't, this is due to cultural standards IMO.
As current day CEO's die out and retire they will be replaced, and if there are valid female candidates they will be considered, but they currently aren't CEO's because the high end management structure has been in place in many companies for more than 40 years, before the time where it was common place to have females in such a position.
If females were to apply for the tech jobs they wouldn't be refused, but they don't, this is due to cultural standards IMO.
As current day CEO's die out and retire they will be replaced, and if there are valid female candidates they will be considered, but they currently aren't CEO's because the high end management structure has been in place in many companies for more than 40 years, before the time where it was common place to have females in such a position.
It's the same in science. At the undergraduate level, plenty of women. At the grad level - still plenty of women. Even, in most places, at the lower professor levels (associate profs, research scientists, ect.) but look at senior professors, heads of department, and especially professors emeritus? Mostly male. There just hasn't been time for the changes to percolate through.
It doesn't help that taking a year for a baby _really_ hurts when you're trying to get tenure. I don't get why we make it so hard on our smart people to reproduce. It's like we're actually trying to breed stupid humans.
It doesn't help that taking a year for a baby _really_ hurts when you're trying to get tenure. I don't get why we make it so hard on our smart people to reproduce. It's like we're actually trying to breed stupid humans.
Me thinks that women shouldnt only have rights equal to men, but dutys as well... for example: In Brazil men have to present thenselfes to the arm to see if they will be recruited or not then they get to the age of 18 years, women not... I know that there are the physical diferences, but they would still help.
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SwiftSpear
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In general I have problems with "the draft" to begin with. IMO in a circumstance where drafting into military service is necessary, women should not be exempt because things are just that bad.Erom wrote:In America, also, women are exempt from the draft. I'm fine with this, as there are a number of reasons, both physical, psychological, and practical, why it should be so.
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Lindir The Green
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If the Buggers invade and we need a draft to preserve the human species, we should throw political correctness out the door and recognize that we traditionally send men into battle because they're much less important for increasing the population.SwiftSpear wrote:In general I have problems with "the draft" to begin with. IMO in a circumstance where drafting into military service is necessary, women should not be exempt because things are just that bad.Erom wrote:In America, also, women are exempt from the draft. I'm fine with this, as there are a number of reasons, both physical, psychological, and practical, why it should be so.
I don't have a problem with women joining the army, but we need to remember that men and women, in contrast to white people and black people, have actual real important differences.
Exactly. In a battle that isn't about survival, it's more politically acceptable to get men killed than women. In a battle that is about survival, it's more practically acceptable to get men killed than women.Lindir The Green wrote:I don't have a problem with women joining the army, but we need to remember that men and women, in contrast to white people and black people, have actual real important differences.
u know liek boyz like to shoot in war games u know wtih u haev 1st person and gun u shoot ther people its like totaly speaks for if that when are man want its instinct to go man war to shoto ppl its rly dangerus also to shoot but its insticnt many go to war alsoSangue wrote:Nowhere in that, or my other posts, did I say all men want to go out and shoot people and have wars.nemppu wrote:yea all men totally do we constantly feel like we shud go shoot sum guyz in wars and get like killed and stufSangue wrote:Being a woman (and knowing that I am not speaking for us all), I have no desire to be involved in a war of any sort.