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Stop generalising about people who play a mod that isn't yours.Sleksa wrote:itt xta'ers flame ba's t1 balance and try to hide their own t1 balance (how do i make jeffies?)
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Quotations are fun.[10:39:49 AM] <[LCC]KingRaptor> I only quoted the parts I thought were relevant to the discussion :S
fleas fill a different job than flashes. and killing weasel's dps is not that good of a idea imo.DemO, since you think that more units are fundamentally better, why don't you try to destroy my BA Comm with 50 Fleas and I'll try to destroy yours with 10 Flash Tanks. Nice to have all of those tentacles at once, but some objectives require specific attributes, and attrition resistance can be a powerful one. You'll be happy with the scouts again, btw - I just killed their dps, which makes them faster again and cheaper. Huzzah~
when was the last time you lost to a OP juggernaut?Wait, say what? Where did doubled come from? How about increased by 40%? How about 57.9%? "Sorry, Tired, but our vast playing experience suggests that numbers are smoke and mirrors and the more rounded a value, the better. While we're at it, btw, we've decided to increase the Juggernaut's maxhealth by about 10x. We haven't really tested this, because only a fool would build Juggs, and we didn't build them that often even when they were decent, but we're going with our guts." @$%#!
Perhaps you're just too dumb to use it properly. 0oWelcome to reality. Algorithmic balance always fails.
Models are useful, but like playtesting, they are not alone the most effective tool.neddiedrow wrote: This is the method I've used in many projects, mainly pen & paper strategy and roleplaying...
1. Develop a conceptual framework (See CA role-based ideas, etcetera)
2. Implement framework in universe.
3. Start limited internal test.
4. Brainstorm factors involved, adjust based on limited test.
5. Repeat 3 & 4 until you can model numerically or physically, usually with an equation.
6. Use model to rebalance as needed.
7. Start unlimited external test.
8. Start limited expanded test.
9. Repeat 7 & 8 until you can collect all major feedback, adjust the model and revise.
10. Take a break.
11. Release.
12. Consider feedback during public release as an extension of step 7, do steps 9 through 11 as necessary.
or perhaps your skill level is questionable. Oo
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Welcome to reality. Algorithmic balance always fails.
Perhaps you're just too dumb to use it properly. 0o
Juggernauts are terrors on metal heck i can agree to that , but there are tons and tons of counters for it and its almost never seen outside metal maps / noob greenfields games.
Juggs are terrors in the hands of skilled players. Luckily, most team games with skilled players don't get to T3. Unfortunately, this is only because the skilled players are generally on one side.
snipers die in ONE HIT from pitbull/viperneddiedrow wrote:Bah.
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Err...what kind of a suicide run are you talking about exactly? Combomb?Sleksa wrote:the gantry itself has very little hp, so a suicide run into it while it is building is pretty effective to counter it.
REVENGE wrote:Err...what kind of a suicide run are you talking about exactly? Combomb?Sleksa wrote:the gantry itself has very little hp, so a suicide run into it while it is building is pretty effective to counter it.
but i thought ba only had flashtanks and op juggs,Jugg is newb bait, the way the EMP damages are set up in BA mean that anything with that many resources tied up into a single unit is total fail unless it is EMP resistent. In the unlikely situation the game ever warrants T3, Krogoth supported by Karg is always the better investment.
