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ha ha ha ha communism... wait... what?!?!
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I think this qoute sums up my opinion on the view "The global warming "debate" needs to end and we need to start doing things, but we have barely gotten past people screaming the sky is falling vs people screaming that nothing is happening. At this rate we will never do ANYTHING at all."
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All the media and especially corporate attention these days looks so bad on global warming. Not to mention the people sprouting it. I much prefered it when the environmentalists where the only ones talking about it and everyone else not caring. I mean, leave it to the pro:s, those ads "We the Gas company like nature so much" and "HOW TO SOLVE GLOBAL WARMING" headlines make me cringe.

As for the issue itself, it's like a mix of arguing abortion and the existance of god. And wheter "global warming" even exists and what causes it is even possible to determine with all the biased people around, even if you did there's nothing you can do vs the power of money and selfishness. Better to stock up on as much resources as possible for yourself and be ready if everything turns so bad as some say. :lol:
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HAI GUYS I <3 GEORGE DUBBYA BUSH
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Zpock wrote:All the media and especially corporate attention these days looks so bad on global warming. Not to mention the people sprouting it. I much prefered it when the environmentalists where the only ones talking about it and everyone else not caring. I mean, leave it to the pro:s, those ads "We the Gas company like nature so much" and "HOW TO SOLVE GLOBAL WARMING" headlines make me cringe.

As for the issue itself, it's like a mix of arguing abortion and the existance of god. And wheter "global warming" even exists and what causes it is even possible to determine with all the biased people around, even if you did there's nothing you can do vs the power of money and selfishness. Better to stock up on as much resources as possible for yourself and be ready if everything turns so bad as some say. :lol:

Yay, giving up.

This is the problem i find when i look why such huge problems are allowed to exsist in the world. Pepole don't know, and don't wanna know, cuz if they did, they would have to care, and they defenetly don't wanna care, since that would require them to do something about it.
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Post by Relative »

Comp1337 wrote:HAI GUYS I <3 GEORGE DUBBYA BUSH
Fucking die
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Kixxe wrote:
Zpock wrote:All the media and especially corporate attention these days looks so bad on global warming. Not to mention the people sprouting it. I much prefered it when the environmentalists where the only ones talking about it and everyone else not caring. I mean, leave it to the pro:s, those ads "We the Gas company like nature so much" and "HOW TO SOLVE GLOBAL WARMING" headlines make me cringe.

As for the issue itself, it's like a mix of arguing abortion and the existance of god. And wheter "global warming" even exists and what causes it is even possible to determine with all the biased people around, even if you did there's nothing you can do vs the power of money and selfishness. Better to stock up on as much resources as possible for yourself and be ready if everything turns so bad as some say. :lol:

Yay, giving up.

This is the problem i find when i look why such huge problems are allowed to exsist in the world. Pepole don't know, and don't wanna know, cuz if they did, they would have to care, and they defenetly don't wanna care, since that would require them to do something about it.
Don`t ruin my Way to not changing anything, Kixxe :)

If you have tried some Responsibilityrelieve strategys you will choose Conservative for final. Because as Socialist you have to fight for a strong State that introduces Socialism, as a liberal you have to fight for free market and the rights of human - but as conservative you just have to lean back and declare that this is the Way the World is ment to be, always was and will be. Can`t be changed to more comfort, Gentlemen! Take it or leave it ;)
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Liberals being for the free market? Are you insane? Thats the very thing they try to crush!

Dude, you seriously need to get your facts straight, especially concerning conservatives, cause you have it oh so wrong.
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Liberal, Left Wing - Someone who leans toward state-socialism and the right of the state to interfere in people├óÔé¼Ôäós lives. Believes everyone should think, talk and act just like he does and is willing to use the power of the state to force people to comply.

Republicans are NOT conservatives. Many are, but there are also Democrat conservatives, even though they are somewhat rare nowadays.

Likewise, many Conservatives are NOT republicans.

George W bush is NOT a conservative!

Some conservative values -
Opposed to governmental intervention in social matters.
Less government, rather than more government.
Strongly against incurring large public debt.

Conservatives fight for individual freedoms, Liberals fight to try and take away freedoms from the people. Second Amendment ring a bell? Many others too.
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I am resolutly a nutralist. I have no strong opinions one way or the other. All I know is my gut says maybe...
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Depends on if he's talking about true liberals, aka libertarians, or the "progressive liberals" aka socialists.
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Post by Lindir The Green »

There are two spectrums:

Personal freedom, and business freedom.

"Liberals" are generally for the 1st but not the 2nd.
"Conservatives" (nowadays) are generally for the 2nd but not the 1st.
Libertarians are for both of them.
Fascists are for none of them.
Communists are for some of the 1st and none of the 2nd (in practice if not in theory).

I am all for the 1st and sorta against too much of the 2nd.
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No screw that, conservatism is not redefined. It is the same as it has always been and True conservatives are for Individual freedoms and the freedoms of businesses. Hence, less government. People aren't as stupid as the people in the government think. THey are totally capable of doing things for themselves, but the government sticks it's foot in the middle of it and makes it harder for everyone.

I could go into specific examples, but meh.
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While we're at it, does anyone have a sexy name for communism/marxism that actually works? everyone living in utopian world of equality and happiness..
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Star Trek.
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Zoombie wrote:Star Trek.
He has said it all. No more room for politics on internet.
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Zpock wrote:While we're at it, does anyone have a sexy name for communism/marxism that actually works? everyone living in utopian world of equality and happiness..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_ ... ce_fiction

Oh, beloved Wiki - My Source & my brain,
if somethings is not in the Wiki then i am insane.
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People aren't as stupid as the people in the government think. THey are totally capable of doing things for themselves, but the government sticks it's foot in the middle of it and makes it harder for everyone.
Wrong, haven't you watched south park? 1/4 of the population is retard :P

There is a certain percentage (although not 1/4 probably :) ) that can't even fill in their tax papers, let alone really maintain themselfs properly. You need some backup system for those people, and for the people with really bad luck that lose their job suddenly.
Otherwise they just end up on the street, causing more crime or other problems..
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Zpock wrote:While we're at it, does anyone have a sexy name for communism/marxism that actually works? everyone living in utopian world of equality and happiness..
Trotskyism. :wink:
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Post by pintle »

FLOZi wrote:
Zpock wrote:While we're at it, does anyone have a sexy name for communism/marxism that actually works? everyone living in utopian world of equality and happiness..
Trotskyism. :wink:
imo any violent revolution that proclaims itself to be marxist has inherently misunderstood "the communist manifesto". I'm not implying that a true communist state is an ideal that i strive for, just that i don't think one has ever existed.

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