"Freshened Up" TA Units

[LathanStanley]

meh, I like to repeat faces in a different fashion...

I.E. the shoulders of the mech all have the same face rotated...

not mirrored where the back/front match, etc.

I'm a perfectionist... don't worry bout it.. its not a big deal

by the way, can we use bumpmapping on models yet?

question:
is the head animated? there a reason why its isn't joined with the torso?

[rattle]

Um I wanted the head look in the target's direction (or 30° left or right max, depending on where the target is) or something but you can just join it with the body. Same for the pelvis, only that it's a maximum of 15° in either direction or the legs will have clipping errors. Like I said, there is no 360° torso anymore...

About the non mirrored shoulder faces, that was on purpose so the texture doesn't look like repeated. But that can be fixed in one click so it's no big deal indeed.
On the other hand, I forgot to seperate the inner face from the front and rear one to draw a hole for the actuator thing (there is one drawn on the torso's side).

by the way, can we use bumpmapping on models yet?

In spring? No.

[rattle]

Finished... I think. Click for bigger screenshot.

[smoth]

The shoulders need teamcolor panels... if I know anything it is a lot of TA:S mod players like top down.

[rattle]

Hmm... not really what I wanted. At least I finished something, even though Upspring ruined the smoothing groups. Or it was me being uncareful when tesselating. :(

dds/s3o, PSD, PNG, wings and 3ds
If anyone has some use for it, I don't. :P

[Caradhras]

hi
i think it is nice and fine, perhaps we get some units together to tune up AA/BA a bit ^^

And especially i can learn something from it

So Ive got a question...

First of all, what is the function of the objects "lammo" and "rammo", they are inside the guns...?

Most models are posted as already rendered, so this is very helpful.

[rattle]

I haven't changed the script because I don't like the finished product. What I planned to do was to add the better muzzle flames and have shells drop when a round is fired (explode DROP).

I wasn't planning on spicing any AA derivates up, I don't like AA (too many useless units). I was trying to get something done in the color scheme of that 2D design thingy.

[Caradhras]

ok, but what do you mean with this

I was trying to get something done in the color scheme of that 2D design thingy.

Do you mean this concept art picture somebody posted?

[rattle]

Yes.

Hmm if there's no way to prevent the explode bitmap to be shown when a piece is exploded the whole idea of exhausting shells is useless...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5a9ONTbrCU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe6GnVfG5xs
Two short ingame videos. They might need a while till they are available. The second one got "exploding" shells...

The whole skin is too dark I think. But it's finished as it is anyway.

[smoth]

the muzzle flash needs to happen a bit faster and be a bit longer.

I also liked the shells version more.

[KDR_11k]

You could replace the explosion bitmap with a null image in the ressources TDF, those units that want the explosions to stay can use custom explosion generators with emit-sfx.

[rattle]

I prefer the shells version as well, only the flare-like bitmap which appears when you explode something is highly annoying and distracting.

edit:

You could replace the explosion bitmap with a null image in the ressources TDF, those units that want the explosions to stay can use custom explosion generators with emit-sfx.

I'll try that.

If I let the muzzle flash stay longer it will look odd, because the muzzle doesn't move with the model. I'll try it though... haven't really synced it to the sound effect other than count.


Anyway second try.

[KDR_11k]

You could try emitting a particle that looks like a shell instead of using explode as an alternative. Would probably perform better once larger numbers of units are involved.

[Neddie]

Look, all of these models are good. Now we can have a PeeWee mod where you tech up to the crazy 1.4k poly PeeWee.

[PicassoCT]

Nice work Rattle -def in the Smoth, Argh, WolfinExile Class...

PS: Is there a Chance we get a Muzzleflash with the Pewee ?

[rattle]

Look, all of these models are good. Now we can have a PeeWee mod where you tech up to the crazy 1.4k poly PeeWee.

I have yet to UV map and skin the guns on the "better" PW...

PS: Is there a Chance we get a Muzzleflash with the Pewee ?

You could have had that in BA or XTA for a long time. CMuzzleFlame is available for quite some time now... anyway it's up to the modder as it is a particle effect. I can supply the changed BOS script (from the OTA PW) and neccessary particle scripts, though.

Anyway some more pictures...


Hammer remake, closer to the original. ~550 tris

You could try emitting a particle that looks like a shell instead of using explode as an alternative. Would probably perform better once larger numbers of units are involved.

Hm yeah, might be better. I recall someone saying the FALL explode type (which I'm using) eats more resources than the others when used extensively.

[rattle]

If anyone feels like skinning it... :P. I'll do it later today anyway though. 604 tris
http://rattle.from-hell.net/spring/mode ... e2-1_0.zip

[Fanger]

rattle it wouldnt look odd for the muzzle flash to not move with the object as long as its not there for to long as real muzzle flashes dont move either..

[Argh]

I recall someone saying the FALL explode type (which I'm using) eats more resources than the others when used extensively.

Yeah... make a bitmap that looks like a shell (doesn't need to be hi-res, obviously)... then an ExplosionGenerator that basically just spits out as many particles as is in the burst... use DIR... set up the polygons to give it relative DIR... hey presto, you have bitmaps that look like shells. Much more efficient than models for lots of reasons.

[Argh]

WIP