One step closer to Power Armour...

Exit69 · Post by **Exit69** » 24 Jan 2007, 11:44

I may be wrong, but i got this result - taking a hit from 1 bullet from AK 47 has same kinetic energy as being hit with 14~15 kg object traveling at 40mph(~60 kmh) Must be some punch, huh? Can he get up easily/quickly if some hit throws him on the back? How good is the mobility of a man in that armor?

Kixxe · Post by **Kixxe** » 24 Jan 2007, 11:53

Exit69 wrote:I may be wrong, but i got this result - taking a hit from 1 bullet from AK 47 has same kinetic energy as being hit with 14~15 kg object traveling at 40mph(~60 kmh) Must be some punch, huh? Can he get up easily/quickly if some hit throws him on the back? How good is the mobility of a man in that armor?

Then the AK47 provide the same kind of kickback with every shot, so it's kinda hard to keep standing after firing it to... >.>

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 24 Jan 2007, 13:03

I am more interested in mechancial Woundings.. ever heard of oil amputation ? Such stuff happens with hydraulic Maschines, when a pressurepipe breaks and the highpressureoil is pushed into human Flesh.

Or lets talk about elektroniks.. how would such a suit react if marching through a Sandstorm and getting eletrical charged ?

Post by **Kloot** » 24 Jan 2007, 13:05

I may be wrong, but i got this result - taking a hit from 1 bullet from AK 47 has same kinetic energy as being hit with 14~15 kg object traveling at 40mph(~60 kmh)

Actually... a 15kg object hitting you at ~60kph (16m/s) has a kinetic energy of 0.5*m*v*v = 7.5 * 256 = 1920J. A typical bullet travelling at 300m/s and weighing 100 grams (0.1kg) has a kinetic energy of 0.05 * 90000 = 4500J, so more than twice as much. However, that doesn't mean getting hit by a bullet will send you flying across the room, because only a small part of that energy is transferred onto you (whereas the impact of a bat is a wee bit less wasteful).

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 24 Jan 2007, 15:06

Kloot wrote:
I may be wrong, but i got this result - taking a hit from 1 bullet from AK 47 has same kinetic energy as being hit with 14~15 kg object traveling at 40mph(~60 kmh)
Actually... a 15kg object hitting you at ~60kph (16m/s) has a kinetic energy of 0.5*m*v*v = 7.5 * 256 = 1920J. A typical bullet travelling at 300m/s and weighing 100 grams (0.1kg) has a kinetic energy of 0.05 * 90000 = 4500J, so more than twice as much. However, that doesn't mean getting hit by a bullet will send you flying across the room, because only a small part of that energy is transferred onto you (whereas the impact of a bat is a wee bit less wasteful).

A typical bullet doesn't weight anywhere NEAR 100 grams.

according to http://www.gunsandammomag.com/ballistic ... ml&x=6&y=3

a typical AK47 round (7.62 x 39mm Russian) imparts 1636ft pounds or 2218.11816 joules at the muzzle (significantly less at larger ranges).

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 24 Jan 2007, 18:16

LOOK, all of this speculation is cool.. but until someone gets me pics or a video of that suit deflecting, absorbing, resisting, or stopping standard nato round bullets, or even hand gun bullets.. and in addition frag explosives.. I cry foul, bullshit, and nonesense...

I want actual proof that this thing in some way offers protection against standard projectile weaponry, If you cannot get that then I dont believe it does anything but act like a glorified Halloween costume.. as far as those attachments go those could be set up to be used individually on normal clothing without that bulky suit attached, so unless it affords some protection from projectile weaponry its pointless, in case you people havent been paying attention we stopped using swords, knives, bats and so on as primary combat implements for several centuries..

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 24 Jan 2007, 19:43

Fanger is right - and the Area of Passiv Armor is ending sooner then later. I think the next step will be lasers, who steamdust the Bullet before it even can hit you. I know it don`t work today, but tomorrow may be good.

DemO · Post by **DemO** » 24 Jan 2007, 19:57

Fifth time in 5 pages you make the same point fang

I agree, though.

Kixxe · Post by **Kixxe** » 24 Jan 2007, 21:08

Passive armour will always be there, untill the smallest handgun fires nukes! :O

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 25 Jan 2007, 01:16

Fang is right, but still, I think it's BS that the suit can do anything to ak-47 ammos. As evidenced by http://www.theboxotruth.com/, rifle bullets fuck pretty much anything.

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 25 Jan 2007, 05:46

I keep saying the same thing because no one even acknowledged the first couple of times I said it, and no has addressed it. Im also trying to get you people to get your heads out of your arses and stop geeking out over this "power armor"..

I have not seen anything to demostrate how this guy is credible or how this suit is useful, we have no expert opinions or anything that would be seriously credible. This is nothing to get excited over..

hrmph · Post by **hrmph** » 25 Jan 2007, 06:06

SwiftSpear wrote:Fang is right, but still, I think it's BS that the suit can do anything to ak-47 ammos. As evidenced by http://www.theboxotruth.com/, rifle bullets fuck pretty much anything.

Agreed. Methinks an AK47 or a AR15 would make swiss cheese of that suit.

Abokasee · Post by **Abokasee** » 25 Jan 2007, 10:27

I would like to point that when he was hit with all those bats, and fell down the "hill" he managed to get back up again, so theres a start, however for proper millatary use, shoot hot lead from a AK47 in it and I will believe.

Also I dont think he is trying to say it's "bullet-proof" the words "bullet-proof" are a load of bullocks anyway since it can only resist light arms fire (pistols, airguns etc) I think he is trying to say it can save it from blast affects eg: Nearby exploding rockets, rubble hitting it but it can with stand a direct from high-powerd weopon. it might get away with RPG's but not rilfes, assault rifles it has a small chance, a small chance is better than no chance.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 25 Jan 2007, 15:16

Abokasee wrote:I would like to point that when he was hit with all those bats, and fell down the "hill" he managed to get back up again, so theres a start, however for proper millatary use, shoot hot lead from a AK47 in it and I will believe.

Also I dont think he is trying to say it's "bullet-proof" the words "bullet-proof" are a load of bullocks anyway since it can only resist light arms fire (pistols, airguns etc) I think he is trying to say it can save it from blast affects eg: Nearby exploding rockets, rubble hitting it but it can with stand a direct from high-powerd weopon. it might get away with RPG's but not rilfes, assault rifles it has a small chance, a small chance is better than no chance.

However, the armor currently being worn by American soldiers is quite high tech and can take a shot to the chest by some pretty serious fire power before it fails. So unless this suit can match that...

PicassoCT · Post by **PicassoCT** » 25 Jan 2007, 16:31

Addition to Swiftspear - there is also lots of private to buy Additional Equipment and one is a Full Face Covering Armour - (i think it was called Predator, because you looked like the Alien in the Film) This Armor however was specially for Humvees MG-Gunners.. so if you want, you can built your Suit right now, of tested stuff. It will be heavy patchwork, but it would save you :)

BigSteve · Post by **BigSteve** » 25 Jan 2007, 21:25

has anyone seen the new crowd dispersal heat gun from the states yet?
looks like something off buck rogers ^^

Lindir The Green · Post by **Lindir The Green** » 25 Jan 2007, 22:50

SwiftSpear wrote:However, the armor currently being worn by American soldiers is quite high tech and can take a shot to the chest by some pretty serious fire power before it fails. So unless this suit can match that...

Yeah, there was a videotape on the news awhile ago where an American soldier was standing guard in Iraq, and then he was hit by a sniper, and then he got up and shot the sniper.

That was hardcore.

diggz2k · Post by **diggz2k** » 25 Jan 2007, 23:51

I agree with fang I think that suit needs some videos proving it's tough.
Even if it can stop bullets, which is totally possible It's nowhere near as agile as it would need to be to see combat. I saw a thing on the history channel about body armor and the next generation of armor is supposed to be a full body suit full of a crazy tough non newtonian fluid so it'll be hard enough to stop a bullet but normal movement is like it was water. Someone tell me if I'm wrong.

Doombringer · Post by **Doombringer** » 28 Jan 2007, 10:28

Lol WTF, my bro is in the army, i see him walking down the streets in that already

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