Developers request

Pharanygitis · Post by **Pharanygitis** » 06 Dec 2006, 19:37

iamacup · Post by **iamacup** » 06 Dec 2006, 20:14

you need to PESTER PESTER PESTER to get anything done btw :p

also go to #sy on quakenet and talk to YEAH, he is the project lead.

Sheekel · Post by **Sheekel** » 06 Dec 2006, 20:17

Wow, spring being published? Shouldnt they wait for OSRTS? Besides, the art and sound is dependant on the Modder, so this isnt really related to development, is it?

[Edit] Aren't the bos/cob/textures/sounds/everything owned by Atari? You should probably contact them (only dont, because ATM they might not know about Spring).

I sense spring's impending doom as Atari sues the pants off SY.

Foxomaniac · Post by **Foxomaniac** » 06 Dec 2006, 20:29

0_0.

No wonder that them maps are such high-quality.

/me faints.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 06 Dec 2006, 20:51

Um, why are you offering a publishing deal to an opensource project that is basically a new engine for a proprietary game? You'd have to not only get the engine (well, you can get that for free since it's opensource) but some mod to publish as well. You'd also have to make sure all traces of Atari's copyright are purged from the data.

FoeOfTheBee · Post by **FoeOfTheBee** » 06 Dec 2006, 20:55

Sins spring is free, all you need to do is make a legal mod/campaign and you can sell the mod/campaign all you want - I think.

Bhaal · Post by **Bhaal** » 06 Dec 2006, 21:14

why did i never saw those nice maps

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 06 Dec 2006, 22:15

You never searched UF, Bhaal.

I think FoeOfTheBee and Argh are on the money - I doubt the engine will be privatized, but feel free to make a legal mod and release it.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 06 Dec 2006, 22:38

I haven't said anything about this yet, lol

At any rate... Spring is GPL. You can very easily just take Spring, make a neat game with the engine, rename it whatever you want, and publish it.

If Spring's development ceases because the lead developers join this publisher or whoever next pops out of the woodwork, I will immediately start hosting the sourcecode, which I keep updated via SVN just like the developers do, and seek new developers. Or whatever it takes. Not that I think that's going to happen, but meh.

In short... you guys wanna make a game? Great... make a game! You want to own the rights to Spring? No can do- that's what GPL is about, and one of the main reasons I am here

AF · Post by AF » 06 Dec 2006, 22:41

The problem si that this sor of assumes that XTA + Spring are the same project.

We have a small set of core devs runnign the engine and developing it (3/4's of which are getting ready to rewrite the engine as a new project currently called OSRTS (temporary anme)).

Then we have numerous independant modders, ranging from loosely collected teams to 1 man armies.

You would thus have to ask each and every one of the mod developers you'd like to offer involvement with, and then offer the devs, there's no 1 single correspondence here, infact there're more than anyone can count.

You have modders, mappers, modellers, AI's, lobbies, side tools, engine devs etc........ All acting independant of eachother.

iamacup · Post by **iamacup** » 06 Dec 2006, 23:05

or just remake unknown files and have everyones undying graditude for the dramatic reduction of rates of eye cancer within the spring community.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 07 Dec 2006, 00:26

For mods that are completely 100% copyright free and are worthy of publication:

Gundam
Expand & Exterminate
Nanoblobs

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 07 Dec 2006, 00:30

Gundam is owned by Bandai... Smoth'd get sued in an instant if he tried to make money with it, more's the pity.

E&E will qualify, when it is no longer using textures or sounds from OTA. Fanger's getting there, though

Masse · Post by **Masse** » 07 Dec 2006, 00:44

just very nice music maps and everything looks awesome ! *being amazed*

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 07 Dec 2006, 00:45

Gundam just requires a Bandai sublicense. You see some of the crap they put out? Surely Smoth's game can get a license... I mean, apparently all you need to do is sneeze on a sheet of paper, call it your plan, and kick up a little cash.

AF · Post by AF » 07 Dec 2006, 02:18

Its bene mentioend elsewhere that your proposal is at odds with the actual setup.

Theres mroe activity on smoths forum than on yours and this forum is much much bigger than yours, yet your basically trying to bring us into your dev group as a single entity? Do you not think you're biting off more than you can chew?

Most of the expertise you offer is content creation, and anything else would best be invested in OSRTS. The core of spring is pretty much a nonexistant spaghetti mess ltierally, SJ's attempts at learning OpenGL gone overboard.

PauloMorfeo · Post by **PauloMorfeo** » 07 Dec 2006, 17:28

If you are serious about it, you must consider the licence of Spring. As far as i know, Spring is GPL, which will meant that if you work with the code of Spring, the result must also be GPL.

The engine needs much polishing to be able to be made a serious game out of it. Installers, Intros, Game Menus, a Tutorial, etc.

That be done, you would need content, a ├é┬½Mod├é┬╗.

All things considered, it might actually be a good idea for a software company. There is much, much work already done in Spring. All it needs is polishing as a engine and content. Just keep in mind that your company would probably have to release the code of the engine as GPL, i think, which may be something your company may not want. Even though i don't see why it wouldn't because most of the value of what you would be selling would be it's Content not the engine.

AF · Post by AF » 07 Dec 2006, 18:02

And please replace all those images with hyperlinked thumbnails, its a particularly nasty post because of it and it stratches the sites layout too.

(My browsers load the page and get sent to the newest post then your images start loadign and I cant scroll anywhere without being pushed upwards by them loading)

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