Core Commander - Remodeled

Cabbage · Post by **Cabbage** » 08 Nov 2006, 00:33

Reminds me of weapon from FFVII

MR.D · Post by **MR.D** » 08 Nov 2006, 14:14

Got pictures ?

Noruas · Post by **Noruas** » 09 Nov 2006, 22:47

Go look at Blue Laguna FF7 videos and look for all weapons, they were scary for their time.

VonGratz · Post by **VonGratz** » 12 Nov 2006, 17:29

Any 3D model completed?
Im one of the desesperated

for a better commander.
Ive modified one of Evolvas a little for my Mod but Im not a modeller.
VonGratz

AF · Post by AF » 12 Nov 2006, 17:45

make the legs less tall and move the backpack up so its top is level with the top of the head and it will look a LOT better.

VonGratz · Post by **VonGratz** » 12 Nov 2006, 18:31

thanks!
VonGratz

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 12 Nov 2006, 22:48

It may be 'borrowed' for XTA, if it turns out I suck at remodelling the current one

AF · Post by AF » 12 Nov 2006, 22:53

@vongratz: show us another shot if you make the changes

VonGratz · Post by **VonGratz** » 14 Nov 2006, 04:51

move the backpack up so its top is level with the top of the head and it will look a LOT better.

Done
VonGratz

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 14 Nov 2006, 05:13

That commander is not going to survive long, he ain't got the elbows for it.

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 14 Nov 2006, 05:27

rattle wrote:he ain't got the elbows for it.

It doesnt have ANY elbows...

edit: I suppose that was the point. I think I'm tired.

MR.D · Post by **MR.D** » 14 Nov 2006, 19:52

I got my model about 60% UV'd guys, I'll post renders and the complete UV map once its done.

Then its onto the texturing.

I also got the Polycount down to 2530.

VonGratz · Post by **VonGratz** » 14 Nov 2006, 20:35

rattle wrote:That commander is not going to survive long, he ain't got the elbows for it.

I know..I know..

Its only an enhancing tentative of mix one Evolva and models from XTA and AA

The true is that Im waiting for the new model from MR.D that is far better than any that Ive saw.

VonGratz

MR.D · Post by **MR.D** » 14 Nov 2006, 21:35

Yeah the model itself will be done very soon, then its for sombody to script and put into Upspring that will be time consuming.

The model "Will" require new scripts since the body parts will surely not match up to the origional Cavedog model origins, it needs a more complex script to look and function properly too.

I don't know anything about TA scripting, and even less about coding and running upspring.

The model is being done in 3ds-max 5, any hints for what size the completed Texture map/s need to be done in and how many there should be for using the color alpha for team colors ect??

I'd like to keep the textures on 1 main UVmap if possible, but I need to know how the engine handles it first.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 14 Nov 2006, 23:00

S3O models have to have one main skin, and a secondary skin for glowmaps, reflectivity, and transparency (at the moment).

You cannot use multitextures with the S3O format at this time. This is a minor problem, if you know what you're doing.

For best results, keep the skin size at 512*512 or lower. Using 1024s is not recommended, and if you can get away with it without losing details, go lower.

MR.D · Post by **MR.D** » 14 Nov 2006, 23:05

k, I am using a 1024x1024 map atm, easily scaled down to 512x512.

I forget that we gotta keep model replacements just as ugly as the others so it doesn't stick out

Argh, what is the layer setup like in the 2nd texture map? is it all greyscale alpha or something completely different, please be specific.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 15 Nov 2006, 02:14

Just download NanoBlobs and study the S3Os and dds files.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 15 Nov 2006, 02:18

Red channel = glow (ignored from shading I think), green channel = reflectivity. Alpha channel is 1-bit transparency using shaders, i.e. only on and off.

MR.D · Post by **MR.D** » 15 Nov 2006, 04:13

Here is the finished and UV'd model, I kept the UVmap at 1024x1024 for texturing.

I've always made a habit of using larger sized texture maps, then scaling them down to match requirements, this gives a higher fidelity image on a scaled down texture map, learned it from a friend that I used to work with.

All Hiarchy is setup with the Waist/Hips as the parent object.

I spent some time re-origining the parts so they pivot correctly, whether this translates by export to other programs/formats for use in upspring I don't know, but it is setup properly for use in 3dsMAX-5.

If sombody is willing to start on the scripting and setting it up for upspring, I will get going on the textures.

Uvmapped Renders

http://mrd.str8-6.com/files/Uv_render1.jpg

http://mrd.str8-6.com/files/Uv_render2.jpg

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 15 Nov 2006, 11:10

How about exporting it to a format someone can use... neither wings, nor blender, nor milkshape nor anything else apparently can import

3d max files.

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Core Commander - Remodeled