What is your problem with making your mod?

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 11 Nov 2006, 12:04

Lack of help.

PauloMorfeo · Post by **PauloMorfeo** » 11 Nov 2006, 20:36

Argh wrote:... There are literally THOUSANDS of units that people have made, available for FREE, on UnitUniverse. Just steal some and start going to town! ...

So, those units are free or not? I see no license anywhere...

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 11 Nov 2006, 23:21

They're free... however, they're still under the copyrights of their respective modders.

Not that it is very likely that anybody would object, if you used them to make a cool game with, so long as it was free and you did your best to credit the sources. It's not like putting together a credits list is hard or anything

Ling_Lover · Post by **Ling_Lover** » 12 Nov 2006, 01:42

ok, once my exams are done (later this week) ill post my ideas for my mod...

probably better to get told its crap before i make it rather than while im making it...

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 12 Nov 2006, 02:44

Naw... instead of posting up a lot of ideas... just do it. Seriously. If I spent all day theorizing about the next release of NanoBlobs, it'd never get done. Again, 99% of making a mod is about getting work done... not the ideas. Whatever your ideas are, so long as they are able to be done with Spring (and at this point, many game designs are possible)... then just do it. Everybody I've seen come here and post up their ideas never actually does anything. Sit down with NanoBlobs and the Wiki, and start doing stuff.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 12 Nov 2006, 03:05

Sit down with NanoBlobs and the Wiki, and start doing stuff.

I recently started..

Boring, but it'll pay off when I get to see 'em do stuff...

Ling_Lover · Post by **Ling_Lover** » 12 Nov 2006, 03:28

lol,
the funny thing is, my plans are similar to nanoblobs (well, slightly... i can see similarities rather easily)

but i would like to get the ideas of people to maybe see improvements that i could make to my ideas, or even if something i want to do is impossible with the engine

i dont really know the limitations of the engine, so i dont want to start until im sure that its possible

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 12 Nov 2006, 05:49

Study the Wiki. Ask questions in Snipa's thread. There are a lot of things that are possible in Spring, with the right workarounds.

knorke · Post by **knorke** » 12 Nov 2006, 05:53

too lazy to find and read the right tutorials.
If there was some very basic mod with 3 units I could probally copy and paste everything and learn by doing. like i did with quickbasic long ago..

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 12 Nov 2006, 05:58

NanoBlobs 0.63 has 14. One factory. Two builders. One static turret. The rest are mobile units of various flavors.

NanoBlobs 0.2 has ... 6, I think. About as small as it gets.

And I don't have a cure for lazy, sorry.

knorke · Post by **knorke** » 12 Nov 2006, 06:04

Yea, just rememberd that.
Iam searching for the version which still has TA units but only includes the nessecary movement classes and stuff. might be easier

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 12 Nov 2006, 06:05

Actually, no... the current version will be easier. Commented scripts, S3O models that can be worked with in UpSpring, and very clean files. I sincerely suggest the most modern version- the earliest ones are very ugly hacks, and the newest one is actually a lot cleaner.

knorke · Post by **knorke** » 12 Nov 2006, 06:08

hmkay. just would have liked messing up the ta units..
but thanks for the help

maybe you'll see something in the next weeks. maybe not.

Ling_Lover · Post by **Ling_Lover** » 12 Nov 2006, 07:13

see, the main thing that id really want to do have is decent close combat...

is there any way to stop the units nudging each other out of the way?

should i not be asking this question here?

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 12 Nov 2006, 08:01

Yeah, you can make them not nudge. The only problem (and this is minor) is that characters would have to be the same size, or larger ones would need much higher Mass values, so they won't get pushed. Other than that, HTH is quite possible. The hard part is doing the work... not getting that technical detail to work passably, honestly. At least the newest version of UpSpring supports some really nice features for animating characters, so you can finally have some stuff that is lively and entertaining if you are skilled.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 12 Nov 2006, 15:59

No, that's not enough. I've had melee units of the same type pushing each other around so same size doesn't fix the pushing.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 12 Nov 2006, 17:26

Use detonate in combination with a LOS weapon.

Instead of figuring out where the enemy is at simply have that unit when the LOS weapon fires, detonate a weapon right in front of it. Okay it would probably tear friendly units apart so there has to be some workaround for that too. I'll try to get one done and show some results or fail blantantly...

VonGratz · Post by **VonGratz** » 12 Nov 2006, 17:32

Argh wrote:Time, and not having a content crew. I do the best I can

Beside Im a not skilled modeller this phrase above applies exactly to me.
I need time to learn a lot about all, and it includes mainly uv mapping, new SPRING enhancements etc..
VonGratz

BlackLiger · Post by **BlackLiger** » 12 Nov 2006, 17:50

Lack of working tools.

PauloMorfeo · Post by **PauloMorfeo** » 12 Nov 2006, 19:18

KDR_11k wrote:No, that's not enough. I've had melee units of the same type pushing each other around so same size doesn't fix the pushing.

If i remember well from what has been discussed sometime lost in time and space, the unit pushing capabilities should be CrushStrength vs Mass (the same ones that deternime if unit can crush a corpse).

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What is your problem with making your mod?