What is an optimal system for Spring Performance?

Licho · Post by **Licho** » 08 Nov 2006, 22:24

aGorm wrote:swapping turned off? As in... you turned off your swap file?? How does that make a difference?!? (I assume your talking windows here...)

aGorm

Yes I mean windows swapping - page file. If you have it on, windows saves unused memory pages to harddrive. So if you have say Word idle it simply saves most of it's memory to harddisk and frees it for other use. (Which is very good if you have low memory system, like under 1gb)

And later if you want to switch back to word, windows loads memory pages back to memory as they are demanded by it.

I'm running large number of applications at once and I dont like any delay when switching between them. That's why I have this swapping disabled.

Lindir The Green · Post by **Lindir The Green** » 08 Nov 2006, 22:49

I thought that Windows only put stuff in the swap file if all of the RAM was currently storing something...

Dragon45 · Post by **Dragon45** » 08 Nov 2006, 23:46

It's theoretically supposed to only utilize page file if the RAM is full or near full. However, there's random bits of stuff that for whatever reason just float aroudn in page file O_o.

Someone else can probably explain better.

FuzionMonkey · Post by **FuzionMonkey** » 09 Nov 2006, 05:37

I have a laptop:

Core 2 duo
nvidia gefore 7400 go
2gb ddr2 ram.

paths faster than my:
pentium 4 3.4ghz
ati x800 xl
1gb ddr2

however the graphics is better on my desktop (because of nice monitor and better graphics)

core 2 duo paths REALLY FAST!

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 09 Nov 2006, 12:28

You dont think teh fact that theres 2 gig of ram has somthing to do with it?
(seeing a windows like uses over 512, crapy windows)

aGorm

iamacup · Post by **iamacup** » 09 Nov 2006, 19:25

aGorm wrote:You dont think teh fact that theres 2 gig of ram has somthing to do with it?
(seeing a windows like uses over 512, crapy windows)

aGorm

windows shouldnt use over 128 mb, this is the min system requirement, all other apps can use the page file in its eyes

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 09 Nov 2006, 21:54

LOL, who's tried to run XP on 128... LOL. It's slow till you have 512, and even then its only windows that has any speed. 2 gig realy will make a hell of alot of difference. Cor 2 will admitadly beat a P4 all teh way... but ram helps.

aGorm

drafzzz · Post by **drafzzz** » 09 Nov 2006, 23:25

MadRat wrote:What CPU configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

What video card configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

What sound card configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

What network card configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

What memory configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

What hard storage configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

AND LASTLY... what is your rig?

decent video card means 9800pro 6600GT, 6800 , etc ...
the cpu need to be quite modern too. it's the main bottleneck in fact.

i try many thing , but it appears the good 's cpu class is barton 2ghz at least.

512Mb is enough i think , and ... that's all !

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 10 Nov 2006, 22:18

SiSandra ftw!

SiSoftware Sandra

System
Host Name : ORION
User : Hal
Workgroup : MSHOME

Processor
Model : 1x Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.93GHz
Speed : 2.93GHz
Performance Rating : PR3197 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 1 Unit(s)
Internal Data Cache : 16kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way set, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 256kB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 4-way set, 64 byte line size, 2 lines per sector

Mainboard
Bus(es) : ISA AGP PCI USB i2c/SMBus
MP Support : 2 Processor(s)
MP APIC : No
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
System : VIA Technologies, Inc. P4M266-8237
Mainboard : MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD MS-7095
Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM

Chipset 1
Model : VIA Technologies Inc VT8751 ProSavageDDR P4M266 System Controller
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 133MHz (532MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 1GB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 133MHz (266MHz data rate)

Video System
Monitor/Panel : SyncMaster 753DF(X)/703DF(X)/783DF(X), MagicSyncMaster CD173A(T)
Adapter : RADEON 9600 Series (Omega 3.8.252)
Adapter : RADEON 9600 Series Secondary (Omega 3.8.252)

Physical Storage Devices
Hard Disk : Maxtor 6L160P0 (153GB)
Hard Disk : Rio ce2100 USB Device
CD-ROM/DVD : SONY DVD RW DRU-820A (CD 40X Rd, 40X Wr) (DVD 5X Rd, 5X Wr)

Logical Storage Devices
master (F:) : 153GB (101GB, 66% Free Space) (NTFS)

Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Professional 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 10 Nov 2006, 22:50

My SiSandra doesn't work.. I have it downloaded, but I don't know how to use it..

Edit: redownloading, it should work...

Edit2: yeah, it works now

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Peet · Post by **Peet** » 11 Nov 2006, 03:45

On a related note, what's the crappiest system you've gotten spring running on?

-My own rig, 2.4 GHz Celery, 256 ram (now 1024), intel integrated gpu, 40gb hdd (now 290), soundblaster audigy 2 zs platinum

-one at school, 1.0 GHz amd somethingorother, 512 ram, geforce 4 mx (crappier than its specs imply), 40 gb hdd, soundblaster live

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 11 Nov 2006, 07:11

spring needs LOTS of shit to be "optomised" and the min it is "optomized" it becomes outdated and needs "optomizing" again, even when you spam "optomised" ram chips all over your mobo, its gonna gonna keep it "optomized", its gonna take a rented "optomized" computer that you get in the mail daily.. how's that for "optomized"... to "optomize" your post I'd reccomend just shutting the fuck up, buying the biggest "optomized" rig you can, and then "optomize" it more by upgrading it everyday.

/scarcasim

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 11 Nov 2006, 07:14

and for your "optomized" questions, here are my "optomized" responses.

MadRat wrote:What CPU configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

fast.

MadRat wrote: What video card configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

big and fast.

MadRat wrote: What sound card configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

who cares.

MadRat wrote: What network card configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

any.

MadRat wrote: What memory configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

lots.

MadRat wrote: What hard storage configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

raid.

MadRat wrote: AND LASTLY... what is your rig?

overclocked.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 11 Nov 2006, 17:59

lol, lathan, that was pretty good...

MadRat · Post by **MadRat** » 12 Nov 2006, 15:33

He's just sore his team didn't play my Huskers this year. :)

grumpy_Bastard · Post by **grumpy_Bastard** » 12 Nov 2006, 21:05

MadRat wrote:What CPU configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?

What video card configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?
What sound card configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?
What network card configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?
What memory configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?
What hard storage configuration will give optimal performance with Spring?
AND LASTLY... what is your rig?

1. Depends on what resolution you run, but at 1280x1024 at higher settings, my 6600GT cant cope.
2. Any kind of sound card that hasnt released magic smoke will do.
3. Its not so much the network card, but the connection to the ta spring server. Also, dont buy a crappy low-end router.
4. 512-1024 will be enough for now
5. Depends upon how many of those laughably huge "maps" you download. Anything above 5400rpm will do.
6. My rig?

RIG:
Video : 6600GT PCI-E, 128MB
CPU: 1.8Ghz winchester-core
Ram: 1024MB
Hard drive : 80GB Sata Hitachi, 250GB Pata Segate barracuda
Sound card : AC'97 onboard
Network : Onboard Nforce 4

Router:
CPU : 500Mhz Chomper-Core
RAM : 415MB PC100
Network : Dual-port Compaq Netelligent

Internet:
Putrid waste-of-money comcast cable 4000/384

MadRat · Post by **MadRat** » 14 Nov 2006, 02:12

I got a Pentium D 805 (2.66 GHz dual-core, 1MB L2 caches, 140W!!) secondhand and wonder if that's much better than the AMD Athlon XP 2600+ I'm currently using. I can trade it away and get into a Core 2 Duo (2.13 GHz, 4MB L2) for another $150. I'm leaning towards the Core 2 but it requires DDR2, too, which is another added upgrade expense.

Any thoughts on what would be better, the 2.13 GHz Core 2 or the 2.66 GHz 805?

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 14 Nov 2006, 15:02

And dont forget a new mobo, probabliy a new graphics card (unless you already have a PCIE one)... The core 2 will mean practicly a whole new system. The core two would woop its ass though. Teh P D 805 should be a little faster than your XP though... but not that much.

aGorm

Licho · Post by **Licho** » 16 Nov 2006, 12:03

Hmmm .. crappiest? Celeron 333Mhz, 384MB of RAM, Gfx TNT2 PRO 16MB

In the past, I used to play CS on this machine, and also host server (for 10ppl) and play on it at once (3FPS FTW, headshot!! )

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