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Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 20 Sep 2006, 05:53

Lordo, the reason your tex isn't lining up better is because of the height. Try reducing the height difference by 100. That won't make it line up perfectly, but it will be a good bit better.

BTW if you use bryce, you should also use l3dt. Use l3dt for the hillside textures. Use photoshop to blend them in together. It will turn out a lot nicer.

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 20 Sep 2006, 07:05

Your a little late forb...if you read my last post, you would have seen I fixed it.

Problem was that Bryce was rendering the damn thing on a curved surface...I changed a bunch of numbers and set it to render as a panorama to fix it.

And thats a nice idea using L3DT for hillsides...My custom tex wasn't doing them all that well, I'll try that.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 20 Sep 2006, 07:17

the way that bryce applies textures to the sides of hills is the reason they look crappy, and the main reason why I'm not too fond of bryce, besides, I like total control, and while bryce provides control, it's counter-intuitive interface make me wanna throw up.

The way that l3dt applies textures is the exact same way that the sm3 maps do, in layers according to blendmaps. Hell, for that matter you can actually make your blendmaps for l3dt texturing if you wanted to.

I'm gettin a little off topic here...

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 20 Sep 2006, 17:36

Bryces hills suck for most textures, I did notice that. I like bryces interface though, and I love the way the deep texture editor works. More then just blending diffrent colored noise, like L3DT and Terragen seem to do. That and I just love the textures Bryce produces.

Go ahead and go a bit of topic with mapmaking program comparisons, theres no real topic till I release this map anyways. Speaking of ATG's, has anyone ever tried Vue? Ive seen some stuff it makes and it looks like da shit.

I have a question though, how do I change the minimap for my map? The mapconv not rendering water thing is annoying and confusing.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 20 Sep 2006, 18:30

L3dt only adds noise to the texture if you render it at something smaller, and then export it as something larger. It's to keep it from looking crappier.

You need to import your heightmap at the same size as your texture map into l3dt, at that point you get high res textures.

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 21 Sep 2006, 17:33

So I tried doing the L3DT hills, no luck. The free version apparently can't import stuff that big (8192x8192), or I got some weird bug. Well, Ive got to much moral to pirate a program like that, and I ain't gonna pay for it...
But I did render another texture in bryce...looks a bit better, and fixes texture syncing even more(Woot!).

Still don't know how to change the minimap...

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 21 Sep 2006, 18:35

it's probably lack of enough memory on your machine

It's not that uncommon for me to import heightmaps at 14336x14336.

Make sure the heightmap is bmp. It tends to not like png very much. JPG works as well.

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 22 Sep 2006, 06:12

Its a bmp, 8192x8192, and I have exactly 1280mb of ram (DDR).
I doubt memory is the problem.

mufdvr222 · Post by **mufdvr222** » 22 Sep 2006, 08:17

Forb, I have the same problem with L3dtpro, I have 2gig of ram and it won`t deal with any heightmap larger than 4096 x 4096, it just spits out a mass of rather cryptic error messages, which is basically why I stopped making maps.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 22 Sep 2006, 08:24

try setting your page file size to as high as possible. That may help, as I said before, make sure you are using BMP.

I am interested to find the combination of things needed to get rid of this problem. I've never had an issue.

I have had it spit memory errors before on inport, however, I knew damn well I had enough memory, so I kept trying and usually on a super huge map second time was the charm. Never had any trouble with 8192x8192 though.

Try this, import the heightmap at 4096, then do operations>heightfield>resample, resample to 8192, Make sure you save the map group file and split it into mosaic as soon as possible to avoid future problems.

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 27 Sep 2006, 17:38

Sorry for the late reply, Ive been busy.
Anyways I tired importing at a small size (2048x2048 seemed to be the max it would take) but no luck. Same error when I try to resample to 8192x8192.
Been doing more work on the texture...looks good.

I'd post more but the bell rang, g2g.

Quanto042 · Post by **Quanto042** » 27 Sep 2006, 18:01

LOrDo wrote:Its a bmp, 8192x8192, and I have exactly 1280mb of ram (DDR).
I doubt memory is the problem.

mufdvr222 wrote:Forb, I have the same problem with L3dtpro, I have 2gig of ram and it won`t deal with any heightmap larger than 4096 x 4096, it just spits out a mass of rather cryptic error messages, which is basically why I stopped making maps.

Guys, i've had the problem for a long time with my larger maps. My solution for it has always been to split the high-res heightmap into smaller quarters. Then have L3DT render each quarter seperately. When u've got all ur quarters done, simply stitch them back together in photoshop (or gimp). Now, each l3dt render will have and ugly black line to the top and side of each render, so ur gonna need to use the bandaid tool to fix that.

Hopefully this helps u guys.
-Quanto

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 29 Sep 2006, 01:15

Good solution Quanto, seems kinda tedious though. I trust this bug has been reported to the L3DT site? People have been having this problem before me.

LOrDo · Post by **LOrDo** » 01 Oct 2006, 01:45

Peet · Post by **Peet** » 01 Oct 2006, 01:51

Kinda looks like what comes outta my nose when I have a sinus infection...good stuff

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