REAL war protest

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 27 Nov 2006, 01:13

Honestly, it seems rather silly to protest the war in Iraq/Afghanistan by marching down a safe, cosey street in the middle of an imperialist city.

If you really want to protest the war, you should launch a mortar attack against the nearest military base, or snipe military personelle with a hunting rifle, or set an explosive along a road frequented by military vehicles and bomb a convoy, toss a bottle of burning gasoline into a recruiting center. That is protesting a war.

Felix the Cat · Post by **Felix the Cat** » 27 Nov 2006, 01:29

Or, you could set yourself on fire...

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 27 Nov 2006, 01:52

R O F L M F A O

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 27 Nov 2006, 02:23

Civil process.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 27 Nov 2006, 02:30

Violently protesting will just get you killed/sent to jail. If it comes to the circumstance that the American people have to take control over their government back by force, then that's a little different, but a handful of people exploding things won't be seen as anything more then terrorism, and likely be used more against antiwar then it will be regarded as an actual reason to consider stopping the war.

mehere101 · Post by **mehere101** » 27 Nov 2006, 02:33

Lighting yourself on fire is perfectly acceptable though...

VIVE LE REVOLUTION!

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 27 Nov 2006, 02:38

Well, if everyone did it, we could seriously hurt our own war machine, but that would be kinda... Retarded, right?

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 27 Nov 2006, 03:35

That's how you guys are, yes...

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 27 Nov 2006, 04:43

If "everyone" did it they would constitute their own (people's) war machine and would replace the need for the US Army (by force).

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 27 Nov 2006, 05:06

what is the point of this exactly...?

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 27 Nov 2006, 07:42

spiked, I'd control where this topic is going, and not encourage it.

protests, encouraged by internet, offline, phone, paper, whatever, IF violent can come back to haunt you. with VERY bad ill effects.

I.E. you say protest by bombing something...

a 12 year old kid reads this board and decides that he thinks, "Protesting is COOL! lets do like spike said!".. (yes this happens)

and frankly, can't find a war parade to bomb, so he figures out how to place a bomb in a locker at school. BOOM! 24 middleschool students dead.

he lives and police interrogate him.

"They said to do it on TA Spring..."

what happens then?

---> YOU go to jail for inciting / encouraging a crime.

its amazing how few people think before they talk.

BlackLiger · Post by **BlackLiger** » 27 Nov 2006, 09:50

Fine, as a protest against Spiked posting these kind of topics, if Swift would kindly traceroute his address, we'll all happily snipe at him and launch mortar attacks on his home....

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 27 Nov 2006, 09:56

Felix the Cat wrote:Or, you could set yourself on fire...

that takes a special type of idiot.

Not to mention the people carrying out anti war protests in his name.

"But he was so dedicated..." No, he was stupid, and to top it all off the person saying he was so "dedicated" is twice as stupid and has trouble seeing the obvious.

Meh, the price for living in a free country.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 27 Nov 2006, 10:01

Forboding Angel wrote:
Felix the Cat wrote:Or, you could set yourself on fire...
that takes a special type of idiot.

Not to mention the people carrying out anti war protests in his name.

"But he was so dedicated..." No, he was stupid, and to top it all off the person saying he was so "dedicated" is twice as stupid and has trouble seeing the obvious.

Meh, the price for living in a free country.

Except he wasn't stupid. He was considered a very intelligent person. Not to say he necessarily had a strong grip on reality or he wasn't emotionally imbalanced, but his brain performed quite reasonably.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 27 Nov 2006, 10:24

I'm not going to weigh in here, but I will say this, if you don't understand you haven't looked at it in the right context.

SpikedHelmet · Post by **SpikedHelmet** » 27 Nov 2006, 12:26

Not encourage the people's universal right to foment violent acts of struggle against the malevolent authority of their government? Hah!

Anyway. Just for future reference. There are more effective ways to protest a war your government is part of, as I pointed out, by attacking your government's military in your own country.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 27 Nov 2006, 12:28

...which just mainly hurts soldiers and their families, who may or may not be all that supportive of the war in the first place. That's incredibly constructive thinking there

Das Bruce · Post by **Das Bruce** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:08

SwiftSpear wrote:
Forboding Angel wrote:
Felix the Cat wrote:Or, you could set yourself on fire...
that takes a special type of idiot.

Not to mention the people carrying out anti war protests in his name.

"But he was so dedicated..." No, he was stupid, and to top it all off the person saying he was so "dedicated" is twice as stupid and has trouble seeing the obvious.

Meh, the price for living in a free country.
Except he wasn't stupid. He was considered a very intelligent person. Not to say he necessarily had a strong grip on reality or he wasn't emotionally imbalanced, but his brain performed quite reasonably.

I think you'll find one of the conditions of being intelligent is not setting your self on fire especially in a religion where you go to hell and, ironically enough, burn for all eternity for suicide.

1v0ry_k1ng · Post by **1v0ry_k1ng** » 27 Nov 2006, 13:25

lol +1

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 27 Nov 2006, 15:45

SpikedHelmet wrote:Not encourage the people's universal right to foment violent acts of struggle against the malevolent authority of their government? Hah!

Anyway. Just for future reference. There are more effective ways to protest a war your government is part of, as I pointed out, by attacking your government's military in your own country.

You have no right to violence... really ever...

Violence is an extreme to be used in situations of mutual agreement or those of objective moral unacceptability. Violence is never the right way of doing things, it just unfortunately is sometimes the only plausible way of doing things.

Violence is simultaneously the weakest and strongest solution to any given problem, and because of it's duality it's a solution that must be regarded with the utmost reverence, respect, and honor. Deciding to enact violence on another party because I'm of the opinion that they are acting in ill will for negative ends based on information handed down to me through several second hand sources is pretty much the most retarded thing I could imagine myself ever doing. The opinion of any given man is a relativity worth about as much as a plop of crap, especially when it's based on totally unobjective/unverifiable sources. Either way, as soon as you militarize you invite the right of anyone who disagrees with you to violently quell you.

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