PS3 Version

Lippy · Post by **Lippy** » 18 Oct 2006, 00:54

PS3 confirmed to run yellow dog linux! Any chance to run Spring on this? Non-x86 cpu?

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 18 Oct 2006, 01:06

And will it be in sync with...

Should be fun to see it on the PS3, though does the PS3 fully support OpenGL as well?

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 18 Oct 2006, 01:09

Blah, PS3 is trying to be a computer, what a retarded idea..

Oh well, wonder what Spring will look like..

ZellSF · Post by **ZellSF** » 18 Oct 2006, 01:19

Snipawolf wrote:Blah, PS3 is trying to be a computer, what a retarded idea..

The PS2 ran Linux too.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 18 Oct 2006, 01:41

Didn't know that, and none of the people who have a PS2 know it either, sad huh... They shoulda told me, if they knew it..

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 18 Oct 2006, 06:27

Running Linux isn't really that useful for a game console IMO...

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 18 Oct 2006, 12:16

Oh yeah, playing an RTS with a gamepad. That's what I always wanted to do.

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 18 Oct 2006, 13:32

lol, poor them..

ZellSF · Post by **ZellSF** » 18 Oct 2006, 13:52

SwiftSpear wrote:Running Linux isn't really that useful for a game console IMO...

Oh, if it makes less noise than the PS2, it'd have *tons* of uses. I mean, I think game consoles should be mainly for games too, but there's no reason for them to be useless the rest of the time.

Besides, it's not like what Yellow Dog Linux does has any effect on the PS3's potential as a game console.

Oh yeah, playing an RTS with a gamepad. That's what I always wanted to do.

The PS2 had a mouse and keyboard, I doubt the PS3 will be any different.

Lippy · Post by **Lippy** » 18 Oct 2006, 16:49

Oh yeah, playing an RTS with a gamepad. That's what I always wanted to do.
The PS2 had a mouse and keyboard, I doubt the PS3 will be any different.

It has been confirmed the PS3 will have usb keyboard and mouse compatibility, so you can just plug your current ones in.

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 18 Oct 2006, 17:44

If they're USB. I prefer ps/2, less load on old systems

AF · Post by AF » 18 Oct 2006, 22:29

If spring compiles under linux, why should compiling it on the PS3 under linux be any different?

And even then I can only think that you'd need to add in the Cell SDK should you need anything at all......

Post by **hollowsoul** » 18 Oct 2006, 22:42

Shudders PS3
Was tempted to buy one to mess around with since it came with linux.

But the went & decided to add DRM so it can only run their own kernel, recently. So that idea is gone out the window
But a custom PVR with mythtv & network|| internet & spring is another idea i might try out instead :)

ZellSF · Post by **ZellSF** » 19 Oct 2006, 00:00

Do you have any clue what you're talking about?

Because Sony didn't make the Linux distro. Obviously, the kernel has to be one that supports PS3 hardware, you can hardly blame Yellow Dog Linux for not letting you install a kernel that wouldn't work.

If you *do* have a clue what you're talking about though, please explain.

mehere101 · Post by **mehere101** » 19 Oct 2006, 00:24

What I think hollowsoul was saying is that while the current distros may not be able to runon a PS3, with a bit of time and a Cell SDK they could be made to. But Sony will have 'recommended' that the kernel be unreplaceable. So no new kernel versions except for sony 'sanctioned' ones.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 19 Oct 2006, 00:25

SwiftSpear wrote:Running Linux isn't really that useful for a game console IMO...

For certain types of calculations, for instance folding@home, it would be extremely useful. Hype or not, there ARE some things cell processors are actually good for.

Heck... if I could eventually get some sort of mainstream OS to work on a PS3, I'd buy one of those rather than a new computer. $800, expensive as that is, is still only about as much as a top of the line graphics card and dual core CPU cost, let alone motherboard, sound card, dvd drive, fancyassed cooling equpment...

mehere101 · Post by **mehere101** » 19 Oct 2006, 00:33

I have to admit, for what hardware your getting with a PS3 your getting a fricking cheap computer. If I could get ubuntu/windoze running on it...

HERE I COME CRYSIS! YOUR ABSOLUTE GRAPHICS CARD SUCKING POWERS ARE NO USE NOW!

Candleman · Post by **Candleman** » 19 Oct 2006, 01:50

So....

Any chance spring wil run?

ZellSF · Post by **ZellSF** » 19 Oct 2006, 01:54

mehere101 wrote:What I think hollowsoul was saying is that while the current distros may not be able to runon a PS3, with a bit of time and a Cell SDK they could be made to. But Sony will have 'recommended' that the kernel be unreplaceable. So no new kernel versions except for sony 'sanctioned' ones.

I think you're just confused now.

A current distro will run on a PS3, Yellow Dog Linux, linked to in this topic. I'm guessing restricting kernels to Sony approved ones would be against too much licenses to be done. With an internet connection, they can't really stop you from upgrading the kernel either.

Before you go talking about DRM, then explain why the hell it would restrict you from making modifications to a non-Sony product and how the hell it would deal with license problems.

There might be a way, I don't know, it just doesn't sound likely to me. I know little, but I get the impression I have a little better clue than you have.

It's not like Sony has any reasons for consumers *not* to upgrade or modify the kernel either, which really makes me wonder why they would go through any effort to prevent you from doing so.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 19 Oct 2006, 10:45

ZellSF wrote:A current distro will run on a PS3, Yellow Dog Linux, linked to in this topic. I'm guessing restricting kernels to Sony approved ones would be against too much licenses to be done. With an internet connection, they can't really stop you from upgrading the kernel either.

They could require the compiled Kernel to be signed by their key to run on the PS3 and would be in perfect compliance with the GPL, only the sourcecode needs to be public, not the compiler or signer.

It's not like Sony has any reasons for consumers *not* to upgrade or modify the kernel either, which really makes me wonder why they would go through any effort to prevent you from doing so.

A modified kernel could be set to copy games from the discs you insert to the harddrive and play thm from there or even share the isos over the internet. If the kernel is unmodifiable they can put locks on that. Either that or they'll cripple the Linux's hardware access.

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