Fuel system

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 08 Sep 2006, 17:50

Could someone please explain how the new fuel system for planes will work?

Like, I can guess that an fbi tag controls the maximum fuel a plane can carry, but how quickly does it go down? Once a second or once a tick? What happens to planes that run out of fuel? Do they crash or simply land? What about over water? Do they fly to the nearest landmass? (Space mods obviously can't have their space-fighters simply land). If on patrol, will their AI compensate for lack of fuel and make sure it always has enough fuel?

What defines the refueling places? Do they have to be air repair pads? Can they refuel without repairing? Can they be mobile? Can they be airbourne? (A bug in TA was that airbourne air repair pads would try to repair themselves when they were low on health and on patrol)

EDIT: Oh, and can we control what planes can land where? (Using the transportmass and mass stuff would be the best way to do this)

Lot of questions. Not all need answering, but they're my main concerns.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 08 Sep 2006, 17:52

Most of those questions are answered pretty thoroughly in the changelog.

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 08 Sep 2006, 18:08

...

Oh

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 08 Sep 2006, 23:44

https://taspring.clan-sy.com/svn/spring ... ngelog.txt

GrOuNd_ZeRo · Post by **GrOuNd_ZeRo** » 10 Sep 2006, 18:24

the Changelog wasn't that helpful IMO.

still doesn't explain what happens to units when they run out of fuel.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 10 Sep 2006, 19:25

I'd guess they just crash. Why not try it yourself?

EDIT: Hm, no, they just become immobile. No idea if they go for an airfield then, GINTA doesn't have those.

Argh · Post by **Argh** » 10 Sep 2006, 22:59

They go to an airfield. If there is one with the right values available. This system is very flexible- too bad we can't use it for ground units...

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 10 Sep 2006, 23:43

So the maxfuel thing simply says how long a plane can fly before having to turn back to find a refuel place? Rather than figure out where it will have to turn back (the so called 'bingo' point, if I recall) to an airfield or risk running out of fuel and crashing in the ground?

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » 11 Sep 2006, 01:11

It will never crash, it will just start flying towards the nearest airfield and ignore all orders. You can still fly them around in FPS mode, but not fire, so its a bit pointless.

esteroth12 · Post by **esteroth12** » 11 Sep 2006, 04:01

Nemo wrote:It will never crash, it will just start flying towards the nearest airfield and ignore all orders. You can still fly them around in FPS mode, but not fire, so its a bit pointless.

you could use this to avoid known AA... but yeah, its not worth it unnless its a Liche or something... (and Liches suck!)

maestro · Post by **maestro** » 11 Sep 2006, 04:52

Hi, that is verynice.....
GZ, im gonna research aircraft maximum range :) so there will be more difference between WD lightweight fighter and heavy fighter...
(Fulcrum-A will suffer alot though.... they are short legged bird )

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 11 Sep 2006, 08:15

Maximum ranges are a few hundred kilometers, that should cover the entire map.

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 11 Sep 2006, 15:28

Fuel/ammo for ground units would be made of win!

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 11 Sep 2006, 15:44

yes, but how would they be refueled?

j5mello · Post by **j5mello** » 11 Sep 2006, 17:16

same idea as an airpad cept its got an open yardmap for a unit to drive/walk/hover into and then leave.

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 11 Sep 2006, 18:22

You can do that via script, just keep count of ammo and fuel (the latter by having a function run while the unit is moving and decrementing fuel regularly) and disable the weapons or set MAX_SPEED to 0, refill the values if the unit is close to an ammo or fuel depot. That's what I'm doing in GINTA. Minus the fuel for now.

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