Bare minimum cpu specs for no lag.
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Bare minimum cpu specs for no lag.
What would be there bare minimum computer specs for pretty much no lag on lets say a 5v5 on greenfields at a really high point in the game. This is also, graphics settings on pretty much low except for maybe unit LOD and at 1240 by 1024.
- Lindir The Green
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- Lindir The Green
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Well, he was talking about a 5v5, but what really matters is how big the game gets.
If everybody hits the unitlimit, then a 5v5 is 5000 units, which would probably get about 5-6 FPS on a FX 5200, with a good processor and a gig of RAM.
Playable, but ugly and stuttery and slide show like.
Actually, I'll test it once I get home by giving myself 5000 units and having them sit still... Coz I'm not sure if that 5-6 is the graphics card or just the pathing/los/collision detection.
If everybody hits the unitlimit, then a 5v5 is 5000 units, which would probably get about 5-6 FPS on a FX 5200, with a good processor and a gig of RAM.
Playable, but ugly and stuttery and slide show like.
Actually, I'll test it once I get home by giving myself 5000 units and having them sit still... Coz I'm not sure if that 5-6 is the graphics card or just the pathing/los/collision detection.
Well, the processor has very little to do with lag actually, it truely is the ram thats the culprit for those "high lag" games.
My best example is that Ghero (from my clan) for the longest time has a processor of only 900Mhz, but he hosted the game fine (he had lots of ram)
but Thor, when he hosted a game, it was very laggy on account that dispite having a pretty good processor (wasn't great, but it was faster than Ghero's)
he barely had any ram. He didn't tell me how much, but it's my impression that is less than 512, probably around 256.
Anyways, the point of the matter is that ram seems to be the problem with high lag games.
My best example is that Ghero (from my clan) for the longest time has a processor of only 900Mhz, but he hosted the game fine (he had lots of ram)
but Thor, when he hosted a game, it was very laggy on account that dispite having a pretty good processor (wasn't great, but it was faster than Ghero's)
he barely had any ram. He didn't tell me how much, but it's my impression that is less than 512, probably around 256.
Anyways, the point of the matter is that ram seems to be the problem with high lag games.
I got the game to run fine on a 600mhz duron with 512 ram and an old gforce 4 440mx.
Given everything was on lowest, but it didn't really have issues until me and my friend ended up with armies of thousands of units blowing each other up.
Of course, zooming out to far (or looking at to many units doing things at once) made it bog down noticeably more.
Given everything was on lowest, but it didn't really have issues until me and my friend ended up with armies of thousands of units blowing each other up.
Of course, zooming out to far (or looking at to many units doing things at once) made it bog down noticeably more.
What is your present video chip and vram size?
If you have integrated video (that is, your video adapter is built onto your mainboard), then a radeon 9550 is probably better (provided its drivers are installed correctly, and the onbaord video is completely disabled in the bios).
How much ram do you presently have?
You're sure your motherboard supports DDR, AND SDRAM?
PC2100,PC2700,PC3200 etc are DDR ram standards, and have a DIFFRENT SOCKET from the old SDRAM (PC66, PC100 & PC133).
@mongus You can't really put "faster" memory into a system with slower memory, all you'll accomplish is having all the memory run at the maximum speed of the slowest memory in the system. So if you were to have a system that takes PC2100, and a PC2100 module installed, then even if all the others were PC4200, they'd all only go at PC2100 speeds.
Given the faster chips are likely to increse the latency of the memory bus clock by a very small amount since they are designed to operated at a faster speed. Of course, in rare instances some motherboards will do strange things if the memory says it can go faster than the board can, and some memory will become unstable if its run at to low below its specified clock (just like memory becomes unstable if its run to far above its specified clock).
By the way, when you're talking about ram, it isn't in "ghz" Ghz, Mhz, Khz etc are refrences to clock speeds of something, like a processor.
Gb, Mb, Kb and so fourth are all units of memory size (based on the same metric prefix scale-with technical exceptions that aren't really important). While I can understand what you're saying, its a little bit of care about units suffixes for what you're talking about can make things so much easier to understand.
If you have integrated video (that is, your video adapter is built onto your mainboard), then a radeon 9550 is probably better (provided its drivers are installed correctly, and the onbaord video is completely disabled in the bios).
How much ram do you presently have?
You're sure your motherboard supports DDR, AND SDRAM?
PC2100,PC2700,PC3200 etc are DDR ram standards, and have a DIFFRENT SOCKET from the old SDRAM (PC66, PC100 & PC133).
@mongus You can't really put "faster" memory into a system with slower memory, all you'll accomplish is having all the memory run at the maximum speed of the slowest memory in the system. So if you were to have a system that takes PC2100, and a PC2100 module installed, then even if all the others were PC4200, they'd all only go at PC2100 speeds.
Given the faster chips are likely to increse the latency of the memory bus clock by a very small amount since they are designed to operated at a faster speed. Of course, in rare instances some motherboards will do strange things if the memory says it can go faster than the board can, and some memory will become unstable if its run at to low below its specified clock (just like memory becomes unstable if its run to far above its specified clock).
By the way, when you're talking about ram, it isn't in "ghz" Ghz, Mhz, Khz etc are refrences to clock speeds of something, like a processor.
Gb, Mb, Kb and so fourth are all units of memory size (based on the same metric prefix scale-with technical exceptions that aren't really important). While I can understand what you're saying, its a little bit of care about units suffixes for what you're talking about can make things so much easier to understand.
I have an MSI6547 mobo. It supports ram up to DDR333 which is pc 2700. Im using a geforce mx2. :D! And im using 512mb of pc133 ram :D!! Which is sdram <3.hazard wrote:What is your present video chip and vram size?
If you have integrated video (that is, your video adapter is built onto your mainboard), then a radeon 9550 is probably better (provided its drivers are installed correctly, and the onbaord video is completely disabled in the bios).
How much ram do you presently have?
You're sure your motherboard supports DDR, AND SDRAM?
PC2100,PC2700,PC3200 etc are DDR ram standards, and have a DIFFRENT SOCKET from the old SDRAM (PC66, PC100 & PC133).
@mongus You can't really put "faster" memory into a system with slower memory, all you'll accomplish is having all the memory run at the maximum speed of the slowest memory in the system. So if you were to have a system that takes PC2100, and a PC2100 module installed, then even if all the others were PC4200, they'd all only go at PC2100 speeds.
Given the faster chips are likely to increse the latency of the memory bus clock by a very small amount since they are designed to operated at a faster speed. Of course, in rare instances some motherboards will do strange things if the memory says it can go faster than the board can, and some memory will become unstable if its run at to low below its specified clock (just like memory becomes unstable if its run to far above its specified clock).
By the way, when you're talking about ram, it isn't in "ghz" Ghz, Mhz, Khz etc are refrences to clock speeds of something, like a processor.
Gb, Mb, Kb and so fourth are all units of memory size (based on the same metric prefix scale-with technical exceptions that aren't really important). While I can understand what you're saying, its a little bit of care about units suffixes for what you're talking about can make things so much easier to understand.
http://www.cpuid.com/cpuz.php
Will tell you what RAM you have installed (amonsgt other useful tidbits)
Will tell you what RAM you have installed (amonsgt other useful tidbits)
technically it is.
SDRAM has a cycle and it is only read/write on the up cycle. DDR is faster because it's read on both the up and down part of the cycle. That and a few other changes made since ddr was introduced which si why some namign schemes are similair and DDR si soemtimes called something else with SD in the middle I've forgotten.
SDRAM has a cycle and it is only read/write on the up cycle. DDR is faster because it's read on both the up and down part of the cycle. That and a few other changes made since ddr was introduced which si why some namign schemes are similair and DDR si soemtimes called something else with SD in the middle I've forgotten.