Modding - how far?

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 22 Jul 2006, 16:18

How much can you mod in TASpring? Say I want to make a mod with Warcaft III features (heroes, special abilites, etc.) and keep the current models and animations, would it be possible?

Comp1337 · Post by **Comp1337** » 22 Jul 2006, 16:27

If you can code C++ anything is possible, spring is open sorce

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 22 Jul 2006, 16:33

OH DEAR GOD, Doing melee seems like hell, have fun...

Veteran levels could let you learn skills, but I dunno how do to do special effects....

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 22 Jul 2006, 16:36

I knew it's open source, there are those original TA dependencies so I was thinking where does 'open source' begin.

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 22 Jul 2006, 16:38

Snipawolf wrote:...Doing melee seems like hell, have fun...

what do you mean by that?

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 22 Jul 2006, 16:54

Melee is hard, animating a unit is done by scripts...
It won't count the actual units hitting the other, you have to make a model or something to do it... At a very short range...

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 22 Jul 2006, 17:08

Snipawolf wrote:Melee is hard, animating a unit is done by scripts...
It won't count the actual units hitting the other, you have to make a model or something to do it... At a very short range...

oh, I had in mind a modern RTS so no melee fights. Also I'd use the units that TASpring has, that means no melee soldiers.

Thanks for replies

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 22 Jul 2006, 17:33

Oh okay

Melee might be in my mod, but 3 units at most, I'm not doing more than that

Decimator · Post by **Decimator** » 22 Jul 2006, 17:46

At the moment, special abilites aren't possible, except for the dgun ability, which can be any weapon, really.

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 22 Jul 2006, 17:53

Decimator wrote:At the moment, special abilites aren't possible, except for the dgun ability, which can be any weapon, really.

why does Comp1337 say if I know C++ everything is possible, why can't I modify the code to make possible use different types of DGun for same unit?

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 22 Jul 2006, 18:12

@_pin

Heros: no we do not have any kind of unit limit. Once the request forum settles down I will put in a detail request about how we will need it(In my patch research I conclude an fbi tag is not enough)

Special abilities: We have d-gun and an on-off switch, you would have to write a patch to support it

Items/inventory: No support for it, you would have to write a patch.

Controlled experience: No support for it, you would have to write a patch.

auras: No support for it, you would have to write a patch.

blah blah... you get the gist...

pin_ · Post by **pin_** » 22 Jul 2006, 18:16

So it's possible after all.
Thanks!

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 22 Jul 2006, 18:17

The talk about C++ means modifying the engine itself to accomodate your ideas. That goes beyond the scope of a normal mod but most people will appreciate new features in the engine (of course you cannot break any existing features in the process).

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 22 Jul 2006, 18:25

pin_ wrote:So it's possible after all.

It is only possible if you write what is known as a patch.. which is a modification of the game code(c++) that is submited to the devs for aproval. If aproved it is then it would be.

However, writing patches is not an easy task and there are some in the community that will bitch about any patch that is made so if you do it you will need to ignore the nay sayers. The ones whos opinion really matter would be the devs.

j5mello · Post by **j5mello** » 22 Jul 2006, 18:33

smoth wrote:...

However, writing patches is not an easy task and there are some in the community that will bitch about any patch that is made so if you do it you will need to ignore the nay sayers. The ones whos opinion really matter would be the devs.

And maybe the mod makers

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 22 Jul 2006, 22:46

lol, well yeah but we don't decide if the patch is commited to spring. That is where it matters.

j5mello · Post by **j5mello** » 23 Jul 2006, 04:43

touche

Cyberwal · Post by **Cyberwal** » 24 Jul 2006, 20:53

Well, for his own mod couldn't he simply modify the engine for his needs? It doesn't have to stay compatible to the original spring

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 24 Jul 2006, 22:13

But then he excises his mod from the community, and it will sink into obscurity.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 24 Jul 2006, 22:15

Cyberwal wrote:Well, for his own mod couldn't he simply modify the engine for his needs? It doesn't have to stay compatible to the original spring

That is what is called a stand-alone. Which means he will have to start a whole new community.

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