Need help with lathans cacti models

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 20 Mar 2006, 10:43

The cacti show up black in game. In particular, cactus 7. I have written the tdf for it (smoth if you see this, you know that I know how to do it correctly).

Smoth if by some miracle you are reading this... I did all the stuff in upspring that should fix it.

I reattached the texture on texture 1, then attached the tex2 texture on texture 2. No dice. I tried fliping the uvmap. No luck...

I'm a little frustrated here. I spent all night retexturing deserted gully and it is quite beautiful now, problem is the black cacti don't look so hot.

Can someone please help me?

BTW on a side note, I did scale it up, but that shouldn't affect anything, to my knowledge.

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 20 Mar 2006, 10:46

read over this thread.... aGorm was very helpful

it has to do with alpha channels

http://taspring.clan-sy.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=4185

NOiZE · Post by **NOiZE** » 20 Mar 2006, 10:48

yep alpha channel problem @ texture 1

the alpha channel needs to be 100% black (100% transparant)

Das Bruce · Post by **Das Bruce** » 20 Mar 2006, 10:48

How many times must it be said, just set to 99% transparency.

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 20 Mar 2006, 11:17

Das Bruce wrote:How many times must it be said, just set to 99% transparency.

the 100% is more perfect, yet however tricky.... but the 99% works easier and is a negligable difference in quality....

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 20 Mar 2006, 16:15

I did that and it still is not working.

Anyone care to spell it out in the flattest of terms. What do I need to do from ps to upspring.

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 20 Mar 2006, 16:39

I'm... out of ideas... aGorm??

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 20 Mar 2006, 18:08

Sounds defenatly like a texture problem... some sugestions. Try a different texture off a feature that works. Just do a straight copy past and rename it. See if it shoes up. As far as I know you cant mess it up with texture 2 being wrong, but dont qoute me on that...

You may wanna draw a scribel of inveresed alpha on your texture just to double check you got the right alpha.

Also.. teh texture is standared mesurments? 512, 1024, 256... ect...

aGorm

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 20 Mar 2006, 18:55

aGorm wrote: You may wanna draw a scribel of inveresed alpha on your texture just to double check you got the right alpha.
aGorm

huh?

I am not a texturer. I do not use alpha channels. If it is a texture problem would someone who actually knows that their doing download the pack, fix it/figure it out, and then tell me what to do and how to do it? That would be much more simple than me trying to figure something out when I have no idea what the hell I'm doing.

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 20 Mar 2006, 21:42

Send them to my email mate and ill fix them.

aGorm

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 20 Mar 2006, 22:02

aGorm wrote:Send them to my email mate and ill fix them.

aGorm

I'll do ya one better...

http://www.fileuniverse.com/?p=showitem&ID=2576

Thanks dude

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 20 Mar 2006, 22:17

send me a fixed copy, I'll update my links

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 20 Mar 2006, 22:22

http://www.onebob.co.uk/darren/springs/catimages.zip

get them while there hot...

anyway... its because he used dds files... reasign teh textures to these ones (i know u can use upspring, cause u said you have)

LS... stop using them!! just use the tga's!

aGorm

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 20 Mar 2006, 22:31

aGorm wrote:http://www.onebob.co.uk/darren/springs/catimages.zip

get them while there hot...

anyway... its because he used dds files... reasign teh textures to these ones (i know u can use upspring, cause u said you have)

LS... stop using them!! just use the tga's!

aGorm

I did stop using dds files...

those were made a long time ago

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 20 Mar 2006, 23:17

aGorm

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 20 Mar 2006, 23:54

agorm... thank you.

Lathan, man I'mma light your ass up in ts tonight (just kidding) :D

ya, I'm getting pretty decent in upspring thanks to smoth. He breaks his back teaching me new stuff.

BTW, keep your eyes open for it, I think you guys will really like my retexture of deserted gully. Lot more variation, prettier, bout 5 megs bigger as a result, but... Ask your girlfriends, bigger is better and size DOES matter ;p

TA 3D · Post by **TA 3D** » 21 Mar 2006, 21:50

A common problem is with Alpha channels like stated before. However, the other problem with textures being black is inproperly saved DDS file. I don't remember what it was off the top of my head, but it was like DX5 for texture 1 and DX1 for texture 2. Also there were some channel settings that needed to be checked.

For example: You make the DDS with Upspring and open it with Gimp and edit it a little. The you click save. When you reload it, it comes out black. Why? Because Gimp just saved it, you didn't give it the exact save properties it needs to show up in Upspring.

Das Bruce · Post by **Das Bruce** » 22 Mar 2006, 03:55

TGA > DDS

TA 3D · Post by **TA 3D** » 24 Mar 2006, 01:03

NO. TGA is just a standard image format(that is fairly good). DDS is not. Known as Direct Draw Surface, it is a image format developed by Nvidia for direct placing into the video cards memory. It was also designed to use the shaders and such to their fullest potential. TGA cannot.

Das Bruce · Post by **Das Bruce** » 24 Mar 2006, 04:22

TGA is much easier to use than DDS.

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Need help with lathans cacti models

Need help with lathans cacti models