Reputable PC vendors

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 13 Mar 2006, 19:19

Anyone know of some good PC vendors, ones like Alienware? I'm not talking about dell here...

BvDorp · Post by **BvDorp** » 13 Mar 2006, 19:22

I just found out I don't know any good PC vendors..

Das Bruce · Post by **Das Bruce** » 13 Mar 2006, 19:46

Build your own.

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 13 Mar 2006, 19:50

Oh I intend to. But I'd like to see what their prices and specs are, all the same.

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 13 Mar 2006, 20:47

Well... if your in england, going to somewere like Overclockers,http://www.overclockers.co.uk/, would be the sort of thing to do, that or find someone that makes custom computers, if you waqnt a realy good machine dont go for any of the big cheap names. Dell arnt that bad though BTW. You can do FAR worse.

Ofcourse as your goona build your own, expect it to cost way more than a similar spec Dell. However also expect it to have the bits you wanted rather than what your given

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Building a PC aint hard anyway (says Mr, yhe last night I blew my PC upagain...)

aGorm

BvDorp · Post by **BvDorp** » 15 Mar 2006, 00:12

aGorm wrote:Well... if your in england, going to somewere like Overclockers,http://www.overclockers.co.uk/, would be the sort of thing to do, that or find someone that makes custom computers, if you waqnt a realy good machine dont go for any of the big cheap names. Dell arnt that bad though BTW. You can do FAR worse.

Ofcourse as your goona build your own, expect it to cost way more than a similar spec Dell. However also expect it to have the bits you wanted rather than what your given .

Building a PC aint hard anyway (says Mr, yhe last night I blew my PC upagain...)

aGorm

l0l, why did you blow up ur PC? Blowing a PC to shreds is actually quite fun.. cuz you know it's not going to happen fast again, for you learned from it. Or.. did you not? Well, I say: pics!

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 15 Mar 2006, 13:45

Alienware isn't "reputable" It's overpriced and bloated. Dell and gateway are both ripoffs from hell because they sell you service that you don't need. Most other PC vendors are imbedded into a larger company, like a computer shop or an electronics outlet like futureshop. The best way to price is to price against the lowest prices on newegg (for US buyers)

Caydr, I've got some links to some really nice shops near me that would be worth while to price against if you are simply pricing. Otherwize you could just ask me what specific components you're looking for and I could price them myself fairly quicky. I've been building comps and helping people build for a while now.

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 15 Mar 2006, 15:10

The trick with dell is to by what you want, not what they wnat you to buy... if you can do that then the pc's do atleast work (better than some pc makers out there...)

Also, by blowing my pc up i mean... screen goes black and I smell burning... possible sparks. Not littraly KABBOM.

Once I was just unlucky my fan cut out while I was over clocking (OK so that was my fault...), and I lost my CPU to it, another time the house had a power serge and It blew the monitor and the graphics card. Other than that I just genrally have realy bad luck, like mobo misteriosly not working, replace it with a new one, which is faulty and breaks my ram, hard disks failing randomly, I have about 2 PC's worth of broken kit, which was once inside my computer.

That said, Its due to the fact I can build computers, and the fact that I can solve most problems, taht I get all the realy bad unexpected stuff to deal with insted (or atleast I think thats the case anyway. All my mates problems I solve in 3 mins, only my probs take 3 days)

Unfortunatly I have to pic of it smoking/on fire ect... I was to distracted to take any.

aGorm

Zenka · Post by **Zenka** » 15 Mar 2006, 17:52

Dell = intel = crap (imo)

Go a to a local store specialized in computers (the onces who diliver for companies, not the local funprise el-cheapo store). You can always exactly tell what you want in your new PC and they make it for you with an X year guarantee.
That's what I did. I don't have any trouble with my PC, but if I had, I have a place to go.

AF · Post by AF » 15 Mar 2006, 20:51

Isnt dell supposed to be buying up alienware?

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 15 Mar 2006, 20:54

Aparently...

And while im in tegh AMD camp and wont ever own an Intel, I do use a pentium at work and its not THAT bad. Some people seem to have no tolerance

aGorm

AF · Post by AF » 15 Mar 2006, 21:30

The last 3 computrs I have managed to acquire had itnels, but not through choice! Oh hwo I wish i could buy an AMD cpu withotu ti turnign itno a comptuer refit

Drone_Fragger · Post by **Drone_Fragger** » 15 Mar 2006, 23:27

By using Quake four, they proved that Intel and AMD processesors guve nearly the same FPS. Amd was 0.5 better, and Because INtel are better for working on, Intel won. :D

Zenka · Post by **Zenka** » 16 Mar 2006, 07:54

Drone_Fragger wrote:Because INtel are better for working on

Who said so?

Anyway, we shouldn't start an AMD vs Intel thread (AMD won fairly most of the previous, scatterd over dousens of sites and magazines). It is agreed Intel is doing a good job getting just as good, or better.
AMD is still cheaper isn't it?

It's just the fact you can't choose with Dell; you have to take an Intel.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 16 Mar 2006, 17:06

Drone_Fragger wrote:By using Quake four, they proved that Intel and AMD processesors guve nearly the same FPS. Amd was 0.5 better, and Because INtel are better for working on, Intel won. :D

I've seen dozens and dozens of CPU benches... AMD's consitantly outpreform intels in the same price range for gaming functions, AMD's overclock better, and AMD produces a higher maximum level chip then intel does. They also massively beat intel out the gate with 64 bit processing. There's nothing really wrong with intel chips, but intel makes more overhead per chip sold then AMD does and generally you get ripped off just slightly because of it. For any gaming machine or household use machine I recommend AMD by principle. I'm a little wary of recommending AMDs for buisness uses because they are built gaming chips and I'm not sure how the bench in comparison for non gaming functions. I'm sure they'ed work, but I don't know if you'd be getting any advantage out of them in that scenario.

aGorm · Post by **aGorm** » 16 Mar 2006, 22:45

The pentiums are actyully only better for encoding/number crunching. This they do very well because they have 1 long single pipe to push teh data down Very fast. AMD, have several shorter ones, so it does more per a clock cycle, but slower. Hence, gaming works faster in genral because its not just repetative number crunching, intel wins on encoding because it will digest digits very quickly!

Or somthing like that!

Intle do have hyperthreding still, which is quite nice (though not as good as dule cores, it means a dule hypthred intel has a logical 4 cores... sweet.)

aGorm

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 16 Mar 2006, 23:38

New Intel chip.... Conroe? Seems very impressive from the biased and one-sided reviews I've read.

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