New Map: Horst and Graben
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New Map: Horst and Graben
New map by cBass and Kluesy. 20X20 supports up to 10 players.
about map
Yes....we will make the metal extractor radius bigger. We are currently working on putting rocks/boulders in the map as 3d objects. Also we are going to improve the rock texture on top of the hills. AF you are very snappy...beat me to da punch....a cookie for you! Also cBass should be releasing a desert type map soon. I believe it will be called Strata Mesa. Also I love wind maps....could bump it up to about 35-45 wind?
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wizard8873
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those were some fun games last night, i was deathwhisper. i really liked the map. the wind is kinda nice but i think it should be turned down a bit. while it may not make as much as solar collectors all the time, it is cheaper to produce them and it pays off in the end. also, maybe flatten out the land a bit by the starting points. once you get to the top and bottome borders, its hard placing down buildings. great map though. cant wait to see it completely finished
As to wind:
Map-makers tend to randomly turn the wind-strength up or down, based on some feeling i suppose.
Cant there be some rough standard?
Like this:
Much wind on flat maps that are not desert.
Low wind on hilly maps that are not including water.
High wind on maps that include much water, make land more valuable to defend.
Overall, make wind-farming only possible on terrains that would naturally allow, and make it only possible on maps where ground is hard to defend, for example island-maps and flat-maps, so ppl cant just unker their wind-farms in.
The reason why wind gens are easy to kill is, that they provide cheap energy.
So having much wind on maps with easily defendable wind-farms, like a hilly map without water, is counter-productive to good gameplay.
Map-makers tend to randomly turn the wind-strength up or down, based on some feeling i suppose.
Cant there be some rough standard?
Like this:
Much wind on flat maps that are not desert.
Low wind on hilly maps that are not including water.
High wind on maps that include much water, make land more valuable to defend.
Overall, make wind-farming only possible on terrains that would naturally allow, and make it only possible on maps where ground is hard to defend, for example island-maps and flat-maps, so ppl cant just unker their wind-farms in.
The reason why wind gens are easy to kill is, that they provide cheap energy.
So having much wind on maps with easily defendable wind-farms, like a hilly map without water, is counter-productive to good gameplay.
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Forboding Angel
- Evolution RTS Developer
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Hmm, that is a good point andresk. One reason why I usually set wind from 0 - 30 is to counter the fact that geo's generally don't work half the time. I will however take your thoughts in mind in the future, I like your ideas.
Ok, I have a huge gripe with this and karst. From what I can tell you guys are not using actual textures for the ground and whatnot. To the untrained eye this can be ok looking, but to anyone else that takes the time to notice it looks bland and ugly.
I can't tell you how dissappointed I was when I loaded up karst for the first time. It was a complete letdown. Same with this one.
Look, you can't use flat colors for the terrain (or 32 x 32 textures for that matter). I understand that not using an actual texture makes it easier on you, but you end up turning what should be a beautiful map into bland.
If you would like help on proper texturing, I would be happy to help you, but please, use actual textures! I would really like to be able to look at these maps and enjoy the fact that I'm looking at them :D
Nice layouts btw :)
Ok, I have a huge gripe with this and karst. From what I can tell you guys are not using actual textures for the ground and whatnot. To the untrained eye this can be ok looking, but to anyone else that takes the time to notice it looks bland and ugly.
I can't tell you how dissappointed I was when I loaded up karst for the first time. It was a complete letdown. Same with this one.
Look, you can't use flat colors for the terrain (or 32 x 32 textures for that matter). I understand that not using an actual texture makes it easier on you, but you end up turning what should be a beautiful map into bland.
If you would like help on proper texturing, I would be happy to help you, but please, use actual textures! I would really like to be able to look at these maps and enjoy the fact that I'm looking at them :D
Nice layouts btw :)
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SwiftSpear
- Classic Community Lead
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wizard8873
- Posts: 254
- Joined: 21 Jan 2006, 02:42
if you build vehicle plants on top of the hills, they wont be able to get down. theyll basically be defense for the base. if you build them on the ground, they can get around easily but again, they can only be used on the ground. kbots and airplanes are the main forces in this but tanks still help on the ground war.SwiftSpear wrote:My only concern is are vehicals viable at all in a map like this?
Texture....
The map has a tilled texture (yes it is a texture!) in all of the low lands. If you notice that all steep parts of the map have a rock mixture texture that is a mix of gray colors. The point was to try and make a terrian that looks real...(like altored divide)....this is only the first version and my 2nd map. Karst is plain becuase is suppose to be......plus it is only 4mg. The hight map for Horst and Graben was created in Photoshop....and terragen was used for some textures. We are fixing the metal textures and adding rocks as 3d objects at the base of the mountains were they would noramlly be because of erosion and gravity. The wind is set high becuase it is a mountain setting. The wind is high in these regions in nature so I made the wind high. If anybody knows how to set wind to be low in certian areas I would like to know. Valleys and such between the mountains would then have low wind.