Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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Jools
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Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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Tasclient recently updated to 1.09 version and to me it seems that it has fixed the downloading of maps. But I'm not really sure, sometimes I get an error still. Can someone confirm they are working?

If not, you can still use my pr-downloader plugin, I attach it here again because the other thread was not where people would look for such thing. It's not as beautiful as the integrated downloader but it's very reliable instead.

How to use:
Extract the zip to C:\Spring\Lobby\python\scripts (or where you have tasclient), and make sure you have a playing profile set up:

options->lobby options->program->spring settings profiles

then choose "playing profile" and select where you have springsettings.cfg

For example, I have my spring data dir at U:\bin\Spring\Data, so my settings file is at U:\bin\Spring\Data\springsettings.cfg and my maps go to U:\bin\Spring\Data\maps

This is just used to get the maps path. I couldn't think of a better way. If you don't have a springsettings.cfg there I suppose you can create a empty file called that. It should not mess up anything. Of course you can also hardcode your spring data dir in the script.

After that, you can download maps with /dlmap command or tasclient should also do it automatically.

It also needs pr-downloader.exe but that should come with spring
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abma
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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please pm Satirik about bugs in TASClient. sadly there is no official + maintained bug tracker / repository any more. i've setup a repo for him on github, but he didn't respond any more when it came to the point getting access to the repo: https://github.com/spring/TASClient
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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Stop using tasclient -_-

Without an active maintainer you're only asking for trouble.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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You can just not say stop using one piece of software without recommending alternatives. At least if you want to be serious.

This plugin overrides the tasclient mapdownload event and uses pr-downloader. I can guarantee it works. Well, the code is above.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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Forboding Angel wrote:Stop using tasclient -_-
TASclient is still the best client for windose
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Karl wrote:TASclient is the only lobby I'm really familiar with
Ftfy.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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You still haven't recommended any alternative. Why can't people use whatever lobby they like? The more the merrier. Or is it just because its name contains the word TA?

I can offer my view of the lobbies, again:

— Tasclient™: best looking interface, superseeded only by the new react™ weblobby: http://weblobby.springrts.com/reactjs/index.html. But this is not yet functional. TAsclient does have quite a few errors from time to time (often when closing it), and it has a problem with transparency, but I don't think these are so serious issues. Most importantly, it gets its work done and the interface is clear and easy.

— Springlobby™: is supposed to be the most neutral lobby, but also the lobby I have the most problems with. Although it is very actively maintained. I don't really like the icons and the way it speaks to the user (it has an attitude problem)

— Spring Weblobby™: nice looking, although warez-black, but is not the most responsive lobby, takes a few seconds to react after you click a button. But very reliable lobby and almost always works. Battle room interface is a bit confusing, don't know how to set ready state and sometimes it automatically changes my state to spectator without making it obvious to me. But still always my second choice for the stability.

— Notalobby™: apparently in violation of spring's GPL™ licence; NL says this is no longer the case, so an update is needed on this topic. Nevertheless: if we ignore politics, the lobby itself is nice, although for some reason it does not detect spring 98.0 for me, but all other engines work just fine. It's probably a personal problem. A small issue is that you can not set multiple springdata-directories in the settings (it overwrites springsettings.cfg with its setting) so you have to run it sandboxed if you have other lobbies.

— Zero-K lobby™: I think this is nice too, but it seems it can no longer connect to lobby.springrts.com, although there is a setting for that in the options menu. I like the integration of the forum into the lobby and all that, but I find it tedious that virtually every time I start the lobby, it has to perform a self-update. I suppose that's the way zk works, but I prefer updating once a month or so, and not much more often.

These are my opinions, maybe I could have said some things more diplomatically, but to conclude I therefore say that I appreciate every lobby teams work and people have different tastes. So don't take these opinions personally.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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As to why you shouldn't use it:
Forboding Angel wrote:Without an active maintainer you're only asking for trouble.
You're not forbidden (hehe) from using it of course.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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The problem is not update frequency but transparency™: Tasclient™ was updated a week ago or so. Latest SWL™ was in July, and latest SL™ also a while ago (on linux the 0.169 is latest which is very old).
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Jools wrote:The problem is not update frequency but transparency™: Tasclient™ was updated a week ago or so. Latest SWL™ was in July, and latest SL™ also a while ago (on linux the 0.169 is latest which is very old).
I have SpringLobby 0.210 on my PC (Linux) so I'll judge that to not be true.
SWL has a website components and updates there were recent, as can be seen on github.
Not sure what you're talking about TASClient. It's pretty much dead: https://github.com/spring/TASClient/commits/master
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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gajop wrote:
Jools wrote:The problem is not update frequency but transparency™: Tasclient™ was updated a week ago or so. Latest SWL™ was in July, and latest SL™ also a while ago (on linux the 0.169 is latest which is very old).
I have SpringLobby 0.210 on my PC (Linux) so I'll judge that to not be true.
SWL has a website components and updates there were recent, as can be seen on github.
Not sure what you're talking about TASClient. It's pretty much dead: https://github.com/spring/TASClient/commits/master
Updated 12 days ago. How do you come to that conclusion?

Maybe the SL version depends on linux distro: on my Mint qiana, 0.169 is the latest: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=33285
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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How do you come to that conclusion?
Lack of project page, bugtracker, answers to forum posts, wiki page, download link, or any other visible activity. Seems the situation of TASClient is that updates appear very rarely, at random times, in executable form with no changelog or published source, by an unresponsive maintainer.

Naturally this is not a healthy state for any project.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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Silentwings wrote:
How do you come to that conclusion?
Lack of project page, bugtracker, answers to forum posts, wiki page, download link, or any other visible activity. Seems the situation of TASClient is that updates appear very rarely, at random times, in executable form with no changelog or published source, by an unresponsive maintainer.

Naturally this is not a healthy state for any project.
How is that different from what I wrote above:
The problem is not update frequency but transparency™
However your account of the update frequency has been disputed many times by users, and considering that this thread is written as a response to a recent update, i find it bizarre to dispute something that is clearly a fact.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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Jools wrote:Updated 12 days ago. How do you come to that conclusion?
Because that was just abma putting it on github to prevent its deletion.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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Still, people report that it is updated regularly, about once a month or so, with the last update 12 days ago. It's not like the choice of lobby is a religion or so, I don't understand the hostility among certain developers (I assume it's because of the name or something silly such as jealousy). Why not let people make use what they want. As long as what they're doing is legal and it works for them.
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It was not updated 12 days ago -_-

Abma put it on github to prevent it's deletion. That is not an update.

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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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Jools wrote: — Spring Weblobby™: nice looking, although warez-black, but is not the most responsive lobby, takes a few seconds to react after you click a button. But very reliable lobby and almost always works. Battle room interface is a bit confusing, don't know how to set ready state and sometimes it automatically changes my state to spectator without making it obvious to me. But still always my second choice for the stability.
Ready state is set automatically. Your point on this is pure bollocks.

Battle room interface really isn't confusing after a few minutes. Upon first glace, yes, it is, but it is highly functional, and if you can manage to operate springlobby or tasclient, weblobby is not difficult.

If you are not synced, you are placed as a spectator automatically. This keeps people who don't have the game/map, from holding up games. If you are not synced, you cannot be placed on a team, simple.

It's pretty obvious when your name is in the spectator list?

As far as stability, I have very few complaints. Sometimes it's a little funky, but in my experience, it is one of the most solid lobbies I have used with spring.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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Does nobody read my posts at all? I wrote all that already. Seems some people reply with templates instead of replying to what I write. I'm not saying SWL is unstable, quite the contrary. But how does it know if I'm ready?

Tasclient 1.09 came out a while ago with a fix to mapdownloading. Several people have downloaded it so it's hard to argue against this.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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Jools wrote:Still, people report that it is updated regularly, about once a month or so, with the last update 12 days ago. It's not like the choice of lobby is a religion or so, I don't understand the hostility among certain developers (I assume it's because of the name or something silly such as jealousy). Why not let people make use what they want. As long as what they're doing is legal and it works for them.
This.

TASclient remains, even with minor updates for years, the best lobby and that sparks jealousy amongst other developers. Yes, it has its shortcomings but even with those then it remains best. Been like this for years and the topic keeps coming back. Try making a better lobby instead of criticizing TASclient.
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Re: Tasclient 1.09 and map downloads

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and that sparks ...
As already made clear by many people, what it actually sparks is irritation when other peoples time is wasted explaining there is no way to report/fix problems with it.
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