Final Frontier POLL.. come on down...

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 22 Dec 2005, 02:54

Ok this is a basic poll, right now Final Frontier has roughly 120 units total including buildings. Now Optimus does not really want to add more units, and I agree that it wouldnt be a great idea to go adding redundent units into the mod cause it would screw with balance.. but I am curious to see if those of you who like the mod would like to see more units added, and if you have any suggestions for units (and no we would not add in a giant uber death ship of doom)... so this is just a poll..

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 22 Dec 2005, 05:45

A nice addition to the already ultra balenced and uber cool FF mod would be a point defence drone for the core. See the Core is disadvantaged at the fighter end of thigns, so a good way for them to protect there capitol class assets would be a ring of two or three pont defence drones, whitch are basicaly smaller orbital defence's that are faster and designed speficialy for blowing fighters out of the sky.

Also could star bombers fire missles, so they can hit battleships more effectivly?

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 22 Dec 2005, 05:53

although I can't think of anything that FF really is deficient in at the moment, I don't think it should be limited to the originals. Maybe a couple more varieties of Destroyers and cruisers, for diversity? Not needed, but it might be nice (if done nicely).

j5mello · Post by **j5mello** » 22 Dec 2005, 05:55

i said go ahead and add more units but only if u they will really add something to the mod.

other than that SWEET MOD!!!

Michilus_nimbus · Post by **Michilus_nimbus** » 22 Dec 2005, 11:19

What about an uber expensive teleport ship with some exotic script from zwzsg?

smokingwreckage · Post by **smokingwreckage** » 22 Dec 2005, 11:28

Maybe a big ship with turrets in the Core lineup? Core lacks big-ship turrets, a bit. I'd like to see battleships more powerful vs frigates :)

But really, it seems pretty good already.

I would like to see some of the buildings set to buildable on water- battlestations- can something be buildable on sea AND land?

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » 22 Dec 2005, 12:54

I never said that i dont want new units in general

What i was saying (or meaning) was to first make the mod balanced and nice.
I think new units are important for a mod, but they have to look like they are made for FF and not lets say an OTA unit in FF or so. Another important point is, that new units mostly replace existing units if they are better so we should try to add something really new and balanced to the game.
Suggestions are welcome :)

I would like to see some of the buildings set to buildable on water

thats a point we talked about and we both agreed on that. But this was a point down on our to do list. I think in one of the next version, we will have more on water buildable buildings...

can something be buildable on sea AND land?

sure... the ressourcecenter IS buildable on sea and land

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 22 Dec 2005, 18:07

well more or less I just wanted a third opinion on whether new ships were a good idea... Obviously they would have to look like they belong in FF... Ive done a bit of fiddiling using Uspring, and I think I can take any ship from FF and basically kitbash it with any other ship to make a 3rd ship that looks like it belongs in FF but only looks similiar to other ships for its side... for example..

Here is a pic of a bomber model I whipped up (not saying we have to use it or anything just did it to see if I could) I think it looks like the other core ships but doesnt look exactly like any fo them..

Mars Keeper · Post by **Mars Keeper** » 22 Dec 2005, 19:41

If you could make the red on that texture glow that would be awesome. But thats not possible in spring right?

TA 3D · Post by **TA 3D** » 22 Dec 2005, 20:55

With the new model format it is.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 22 Dec 2005, 21:26

I was wondering if someone could turn TLL into a space race and put it into TAFF

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 23 Dec 2005, 00:30

yeah... i dont see that happening anytime soon, cause I dont have a clue what their ships would look like..

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 23 Dec 2005, 02:04

Sleek, stylized and submairen like... i gusse.

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 23 Dec 2005, 04:23

well ill have a look at their subs, then and see if I cant go from their... I guess given the general setup though, what weaponry would they use (aside from vpulsethingy's) as core=lasers, and arm=plasma,... both sides have missiles/rockets, and other projectile weapons, i guess lightning but that seems like it ought to be arm too..?

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 23 Dec 2005, 06:20

lightning and flamers =P.
actually, D-gun derivatives might be interesting to use, and space-adapted v-pulse maybe?

Optimus Prime · Post by **Optimus Prime** » 23 Dec 2005, 10:36

hm for a spacempd that would look really uncool i think

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GrOuNd_ZeRo · Post by **GrOuNd_ZeRo** » 23 Dec 2005, 18:17

please, KEEP IT ORIGINAL!!!

Add 3rd party units if you like, there are some unofficial units released by various designers like Born Acorn and me to name a few.

why not add those?

Since i'm officially affiliated with this project, i'm willing to add some units, I know the style, the Warlock and Morningstar were originally my OTA starships, Savant remodeled them a little and gave them a fancier texture set.

No offense but I don't think anyone who is not in the loop should be making new TA:FF units since they simply would not be traditional enough, I already think the reballances were a bit too much overboard.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 23 Dec 2005, 20:08

How about, for a TLL spacerace, a huge ship thats really long and spindly with a big two part carapice, and when its going to fire the carapice moves back to reveal a staggering number of V-pulse tubes.

Comence ass kicking!

BadMan · Post by **BadMan** » 23 Dec 2005, 20:16

Eh, more units dont really mean more fun. I think FF is fine.

However, it would be really nice if there were some FF only maps. LIke huge space maps or something.

Actually, I do have a unit request. Add in a custom mex model. Having all the cool FF models and then have the ota mex...kinda looks weird.

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 23 Dec 2005, 21:35

Ground Zero.... what loop.. I have checked the FF site several times it has not been updated for the last month... it still has the same old stuff... even the forum seems dead..

So as far as I can tell the loop is pretty dead at this point and anyone would be qualified to make new ships... secondly thats not a "new" ship.. its several parts of old ships kitbashed together if you will..

and how was the balance overboard...?

this is not TA:FF its TA spring FF... thus a whole different animal.. we have alot of new things we can work with and I dont see why we shouldnt attempt to implement them...

Spring RTS Engine

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