Is it just me or is the A.I. incredibly hard to beat?

Is it just me or is the A.I. incredibly hard to beat?

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Scottieonfire
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Is it just me or is the A.I. incredibly hard to beat?

Post by Scottieonfire »

So i am fairly new at Spring, but i have been playing quite a few rounds against the CPU. Im using the KAIK-0.13.dll and RAI.dll. the AAI.dll that came with the download doesnt work, so im just using those two, but they build really fast and in large numbers. Is there any tips on how to keep up or work around the AI?
imbaczek
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Post by imbaczek »

learn from humans by watching replays. you'll find that AIs are pretty dumb.

http://replays.adune.nl/
ZellSF
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Post by ZellSF »

It's just you.
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jcnossen
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Post by jcnossen »

you just have to develop your playing speed, by using queuing a lot for example. Most other games don't even support it that much (besides supcom). Once you can control a lot of units, you can start improving economy buildup and attacking. Then beating an AI will be pretty easy.
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MidKnight
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Post by MidKnight »

Spring AIs are comparatively hard, though. Some (points to kai) were even used as basises for college thesises (thesisi?)!

but yes, the best advice on how top beat an AI is to play vs. a player, or add another AI bot to your team, and plauy 2v1 :-)
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Gabba
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Post by Gabba »

Heh, Spring has come a long way. This thread's title is very nice to read, given that for a long time, there wasn't any AI to speak about.
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TradeMark
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Post by TradeMark »

hmm... at start the AI's can beat you, if you play your first time... i think AI beated me when i played spring first time... didnt know how the mexes work etc XD i just built them all near each other, without caring about the mex range.. lol
Scottieonfire
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Post by Scottieonfire »

and how can i view these replays? a link to replay program plz and thanks? that would really help. and yes i do make use of queuing commands with the commander and C Units, etc. just balancing metal and energy while building plants and labs and defence or scouts, blah blah blah. Consider me your new Paddawon!
Scottieonfire
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Post by Scottieonfire »

nvm i figured it out. lol
though, how do i view other ppls matches? through the replay tab? cuz i tried to move it there and it wouldnt work.
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Post by daan 79 »

spec a game or download soem demos.
tombom
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Post by tombom »

If you download a replay you should just be able to double-click it and it should play.

I think you just need a lot more practice; it gets easier with time. Few tips, presuming you're playing XTA/BA:
1) Make sure you're constantly expanding and trying to get more & more metal spots
2) Never let your builders go idle; use them to build economy (solar collectors + metal makers) or guard your factories/other builders with them. If you have multiple builders working on something, it builds a lot faster, which is really important. Far better than multiple factories.
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TradeMark
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Post by TradeMark »

tombom wrote:If you download a replay you should just be able to double-click it and it should play.
or unzip first (if downloaded from http://replays.adune.nl/ )
slogic
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Post by slogic »

Scottieonfire wrote:... the AAI.dll that came with the download doesnt work...
Here is the fix.
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AF
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Re: Is it just me or is the A.I. incredibly hard to beat?

Post by AF »

Build a wall around your base, stick towers behind it, sit back, and watch the AI die horribly while you build a huge swarm of lvl1 units and nuke its base
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