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Supposedly he's equally capable in either language.AF wrote:Perhaps you'd be better off posting the message twice in english and french, it would help clear up mis-interpretation.
1 the first property of cavedog(tm|c) is ...his name !lurker wrote:spring_0.76b1.exe has no cavedog property. Only some of the files in the /base/ folder have any, and those files are only installed if you pick a TA mod. Spring itself is completely free of cavedog/Atari
So how much time to fix it? 0 minutes
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No OTA content is distributed, and it's clearly stated it's illegal to download OTA-based mods if you don't own OTA. There's plently of good (or potentially good) non-OTA content, so Spring isn't threatened by that.1 the first property of cavedog(tm|c) is ...his name !
totalA(c) cavedog(c) atari(tm) can be used freely in spring
the liscence for TotalA(c) is for his content without all CLONE or CONTREFACON(reverse_engenering)falsification fake
{maybe your model/data|link are a threat against ATARI(tm)incomes(+$£) }
Same as above. And Spring doesn't even use gaf.2 is a kind of data is mandatory for the spring use AND be exclusively developed and used in cavedog(c) products
{exemple:it seems the .gaf file format[not in spring] is excusively used in cavedog(c) products}
I doubt it.because spring seems be a good or a bestest engine with some futur commercial/legal aplication and
Commercial use doesn't play into this. Being compatible with someone else's file formats is legal (hey, it works for OpenOffice!). Reverse engineering may not but considering how much Spring behaves like OTA in situations that weren't present in vanilla OTA it really doesn't look reverse engineered. It's built to behave similarily and fool the casual observer but as Zwzsg points out all the time it's NOT an accurate replica, just something that can use the same stats.Michilus_nimbus wrote:On the reverse engineering: I believe it's perfectly legal to make your own implementation of anything if it isn't for commercial use. Otherwise, pretty much every emulator would be illegal.
if i will link here some illegal content here with mention "dont click its illegal" ???No OTA content is distributed, and it's clearly stated it's illegal to download OTA-based mods if you don't own OTA. There's plently of good (or potentially good) non-OTA content, so Spring isn't threatened by that.
On the reverse engineering: I believe it's perfectly legal to make your own implementation of anything if it isn't for commercial use. Otherwise, pretty much every emulator would be illegal.
enjoy the legal copyright is only 50years ...1996_2046emmanuel wrote:if i will link here some illegal content here with mention "dont click its illegal" ???No OTA content is distributed, and it's clearly stated it's illegal to download OTA-based mods if you don't own OTA. There's plently of good (or potentially good) non-OTA content, so Spring isn't threatened by that.
On the reverse engineering: I believe it's perfectly legal to make your own implementation of anything if it isn't for commercial use. Otherwise, pretty much every emulator would be illegal.
OTA mod are not cavedog(c) content
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the own of the original "rollex/addidas"(for exemple= dnot allow to you the power to buy a contrefacted/clone of this "rollex/addidas"
if a software is fully compatible with a legal exclusiv .file format :
its very well !
but is a program is exclusively compatible with a exclusiv .file format then its a clone of a owned tools...
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Just to re-assert what has been said the only part of Spring that relies exclusively on TA is cob.
if i will link here some illegal content here with mention "dont click its illegal" ???No OTA content is distributed, and it's clearly stated it's illegal to download OTA-based mods if you don't own OTA. .
we are safe so...smoth wrote:cob does not belong to ta.
maybe your donations is suficient for cover the hosting costs but when you will be die :how spring will survive ???kiki wrote:lua > cob
Emanuel, dont incorporate commercial interests into spring please. I hope this project is open source forever.
you disagree open source maybe,kiki wrote:freeware is not open source. I will gladly give my monies. And you should gladly give your francs. Or centimes, whatever denomination holds the most significance in your life.
It's your right to do that. If you're not hosting the content, there's nothing stopping you from saying "Look at all the illegal content here, it's a shame!"If i will link here some illegal content here with mention "dont click its illegal".
improved language implementation°2.0 =Michilus_nimbus wrote:It's your right to do that. If you're not hosting the content, there's nothing stopping you from saying "Look at all the illegal content here, it's a shame!"If i will link here some illegal content here with mention "dont click its illegal".
The worst thing that could happen is a C&D from Atari demanding to scrap the OTA-mods from the installer. So What. Lot's of people are modding right now, and I'm damn sure a TA clone with similar balance and features would appear shortly after.
I would find it very hard to believe cob could threaten Spring. It's just our own (improved!) implementation of the language! There's absolutely nothing illegal about that.
