Repulsed? But how strong?

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 21 May 2005, 07:34

Okay, I'm excited I got repulsing to work, see video, what I don't know are good values to use and what they do.

http://www.epicedit.com/repulse.avi

As you can see, the Buzzsaw's don't have a chance, and these were values I thought would be calm!!

I brought the values down by a factor of 10 and still looked similar. I'm trying to get the same effect SJ had in his video... but obviously having issues.

So, SJ, what values did you use?

repulseenergy=?;
repulseforce=?;
repulserange=?;
repulsespeed=?;

I've tried it a few times but can't seem to get values that look decent. Not sure what "repulsespeed" indicates.

Thanks!
-Buggi

Post by SJ » 21 May 2005, 09:14

energy=energy per tick per projectile being repulsed that is used
force= acceleration out from the repulser
range= max range the repulser start repulsing at
speed= max speed out from the repulser that a projectile can have for the repulser to acts on it

iirc i used something like

repulseenergy=20;
repulseforce=0.4;
repulserange=1000;
repulsespeed=10;

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 21 May 2005, 09:20

Thank you!! :D

Now, can you please point me in the right direction of where SightDistance is being chopped? I can't seem to go past 1300 map units for sight.

-Buggi

Storm · Post by **Storm** » 21 May 2005, 10:19

The fuck... They bounce in midair?

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 21 May 2005, 11:54

Does a repulsor only effect plasma or rockets too?

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 21 May 2005, 18:11

Settle storm, they're doing that because of the values I used.

Rayden/Owen, just plasma based weapons, rockets go right through. So the LRP as well as ships and artillary... a very effective feature.

Now to put it into a tank or something :)

-Buggi

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 21 May 2005, 20:12

WohoO!!

I used numbers close to what SJ gave, I just dropped the radius a bit.

Three buzzsaws trying to attack...
http://www.epicedit.com/repulse2.avi

A single artillary unit... not having much luck
http://www.epicedit.com/smaller.avi

And my personal fav... The repulsers also repulse any plasma you're base creates. So don't place near anything that fires (artillary etc) or the projectiles will be deflected going OUT of your base too.

But here's a video to show the true POWER of the dark..er.. Repulsing. @_@;;

http://www.epicedit.com/incoming.avi

oooo pretty... Like the northern lights

I later built an annihilator and the laser was unaffected, no surprise there. But my artillary unit couldn't hit anything worth beans because it kept getting pushed away. Not sure the best way to tackle that issue... Have something repel plasma but still give you the ability to shoot out...

Now if there was a cool way to "draw" the limits of the forcefield.. that'd be sweet... A glowing shield of sorts. :-D

-Buggi

Post by SJ » 21 May 2005, 20:12

LOS distance is limited by MAX_LOS_TABLE but giving anything mobile los >~600 will use a lot of cpu (cpu needed is quadratic to the distance)

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 21 May 2005, 20:20

LOL

So that's why when I set that const from 80 to 800 spring sorta just sat and thought about it for a bit...

*end task* lol

^_^

Interesting, just to unveil the map consumes that much CPU? o.O;; Ouch.

A Blinded,
-Buggi

renrutal · Post by **renrutal** » 21 May 2005, 23:04

Yeah, you've got to calculate the LOS of pi*r├é┬▓ circular area, r radius, in X*Y then apply that in Z depending on the terrain.

Lots of CPU calculations. Perhaps it can be optimized evn more.

[K.B.] Napalm Cobra · Post by **[K.B.] Napalm Cobra** » 22 May 2005, 00:58

Can you make a video with speed at 0?

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 22 May 2005, 03:04

Speed can't go to 0, but it can go to 0.1

Is that what you meant?

-Buggi

Storm · Post by **Storm** » 24 May 2005, 16:31

Wow, wicked cool!!

[K.B.] Napalm Cobra · Post by **[K.B.] Napalm Cobra** » 24 May 2005, 21:52

No i mean the bullets stop instantly but arn't pushed away.

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 24 May 2005, 22:06

OH! I should try that ├é┬¼_├é┬¼

Like birds flying through a glass wall... THUMP!

I also added a "lighter" repulser to the scout vehicles for both sides. Mobile repulsing :-D

Reminds me a lot of SW Episode 1 @.@;;;

Poor poor gungans...

-Buggi

[K.B.] Napalm Cobra · Post by **[K.B.] Napalm Cobra** » 25 May 2005, 07:06

Ugh, they ruined all of the starwars.

SinbadEV · Post by **SinbadEV** » 25 May 2005, 13:36

GunGuns weren't all that annoying, just JarJar. And the shields were wicked cool... the Droid Destroyers were even cooler though. Now, if we can affect the physics of plasma, maybe we can make force fields that push units away. shouldn't be too hard, basically like a no-damage nuke centralized around a unit...

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » 25 May 2005, 23:20

I've been trying to think of ways to make a jump for a unit, and my first thought was to make a no-damage weapon that fired straight down, and hope that the physics engine did the rest

However, I'd bet that it would be much more stable if i used a repulsing field...can you modify just what the field repulses?

Sean Mirrsen · Post by **Sean Mirrsen** » 26 May 2005, 10:44

Can the impulse a weapon gives to a unit be dependant on a certain power value (defined in the weapon file) rather than the weapon AOE or damage?

Noruas · Post by **Noruas** » 26 May 2005, 16:41

repulsing looks awsome, i hope in the next spring update will have a list of those unused but working scripts hidden features in spring, such as the ability to repulse cannons, and the codes to make them work and where they must be used. other two features that would make ta spring awsome, those stealth fighters such as hawks, or vamps, can disable the tracking of missles, another thing that would add strategy are energy shields, where lasers, emgs, cannot go through these shields, because energy cannot get through, but solid mass can. but ofcourse i demand alot more so ill shut my traphole and maybe post for awsome additions on the mod section. either way, SWEET WORK

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Repulsed? But how strong?

Repulsed? But how strong?

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