I just wanted to sort of "remind" potential modders that u can create upgradable units.
Why not make a mod that is all about small groups of units that can be upgraded many times.
As i understand when they upgrade you can even add new components to their visual representtion.
Would be cool if at max exp ur units becomes 3 times bigger for example..
Warcraft 3 style mod
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it would also be cool if you "idea" people did it instead of asking others.
Have you any idea how much work is involved? If you want to see it, MAKE IT HAPPEN and stop wanting others to do it for you. While you people play spring we make content, how is that fair. Maybe, I am tired from busting it trying to get a lot of content out the door or maybe this is the second "hey guys do my mod" thread. I am not sure but please, start it if you want to see it happen. If you want something to happen get started if others like the idea maybe you will have help.
Have you any idea how much work is involved? If you want to see it, MAKE IT HAPPEN and stop wanting others to do it for you. While you people play spring we make content, how is that fair. Maybe, I am tired from busting it trying to get a lot of content out the door or maybe this is the second "hey guys do my mod" thread. I am not sure but please, start it if you want to see it happen. If you want something to happen get started if others like the idea maybe you will have help.
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klapmongool
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Re: Warcraft 3 style mod
I wonder if upgrades are actually possible, that doesn't need making multiple units. Say you want to make a simple firepower upgrade. Like +1 damage on the units weapon. One way to do it is of course just making 2 separate units that are the same except one has the +1 damage. But what if you want to also make another upgrade, like +50hp, then you need one standard unit, one for each upgrade, and one for both upgrades, total 4. This just gets worse, and say you want 3 levels of these upgrades, then u need like 10 different units. Add in a sight range upgrade u need 20, etc.DZHIBRISH wrote:u can create upgradeable units.
So this gets ugly fast, and it would be tons more convenient if you could actually directly modify the units stats from LUA code inside the game to do the upgrades. But is this possible?
I believe so... one could consult Optimus on the old method (War Evolution, can't remember what he did to get it all going, but that game is the best thing he ever made for the Spring engine...), or try to push in with LUA. However, I'm not sure which is the most efficient solution in terms of processing time and reliability.
+ 14.78 !smoth wrote:it would also be cool if you "idea" people did it instead of asking others.
Have you any idea how much work is involved? If you want to see it, MAKE IT HAPPEN and stop wanting others to do it for you. While you people play spring we make content, how is that fair. Maybe, I am tired from busting it trying to get a lot of content out the door or maybe this is the second "hey guys do my mod" thread. I am not sure but please, start it if you want to see it happen. If you want something to happen get started if others like the idea maybe you will have help.
I SUGGEST YOU READ THE FOLLOWING NEDDIE;
http://www.wc3wiki.com/index.php?title=Panda
Instead of just combining two skills into one, why not take some units and heroes, and make them breed! (I knew Blizzard liked breeding retarded ideas.) Why not simply take a Mountain Giant, a Tauren, an Infernal, a Blademaster, a Druid of the Talon, and a Priest and create three units out of them, double every numerical value possible, and call it an ultimate? Oh man, I can already smell the promotion coming!
Exchanges your nearly-dead Panda for a Mountain Giant with Pulverize and more damage than the Panda himself, an Infernal with even more damage than that, and a ranged Blademaster with Cyclone and Dispel Magic. Also makes enemies sob with frustration.
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WITH A HISTORY OF 800 GAMES IN WC3 I CAN SAFELY SAY THAT , FIRE SPEWING ALCOHOLIST-PANDAS AND DOTA ARE THE LAST THING SPRING NEEDS. UNLESS YOU LIKE UNICORNS AND RAINBOWS AND WALKING LONG WALKS ON THE BEACH. WITH ANOTHER MAN.
http://www.wc3wiki.com/index.php?title=Panda
Instead of just combining two skills into one, why not take some units and heroes, and make them breed! (I knew Blizzard liked breeding retarded ideas.) Why not simply take a Mountain Giant, a Tauren, an Infernal, a Blademaster, a Druid of the Talon, and a Priest and create three units out of them, double every numerical value possible, and call it an ultimate? Oh man, I can already smell the promotion coming!
Exchanges your nearly-dead Panda for a Mountain Giant with Pulverize and more damage than the Panda himself, an Infernal with even more damage than that, and a ranged Blademaster with Cyclone and Dispel Magic. Also makes enemies sob with frustration.
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WITH A HISTORY OF 800 GAMES IN WC3 I CAN SAFELY SAY THAT , FIRE SPEWING ALCOHOLIST-PANDAS AND DOTA ARE THE LAST THING SPRING NEEDS. UNLESS YOU LIKE UNICORNS AND RAINBOWS AND WALKING LONG WALKS ON THE BEACH. WITH ANOTHER MAN.
check out war evolution?I just wanted to sort of "remind" potential modders that u can create upgradable units.
Why not make a mod that is all about small groups of units that can be upgraded many times.
As i understand when they upgrade you can even add new components to their visual representtion.
Would be cool if at max exp ur units becomes 3 times bigger for example..
regarding the story section i liked the horde for reasons you mentioned, they werent GAY like nelves and their whole life circled around combat and honour.
everyone who likes hugging trees, shooting people to the back, and running away when they encounter any actual enemies, other than civilians should love elves.
INGAME CLASSIFICATION OF THE RACES.
BY SLEKSA THE MASTERPWNINATORGOSUMASTER1337D00D
(PREPARE FOR SOME HATE)
1) nelves = THIS RACE REEKS OF GAY.
Farms that heal your units for free? a t2 staff that makes your units invincible? did i also tell you that nelves are gay?
A hero that is both invincible, the fastest non-mounted hero ingame, and makes every other hero in the game useless?(hint, combine with panda to win the whole game using only moonwells and these 2 heroes, tested and tried! get your money back if you by some miracle happen to lose)
oh wait thats not all! if you are dumb enough not to get wins with the 2 most imbalanced heroes ingame, lets give you 2 most imba units too!
by selecting these guys you also get the best antiair-magic-immune--ill-make-your-army-devoid-of-magic-dryads that cost next to nothing!
AND THATS NOT ALL, SELECT NELVES NOW AND YOU CAN GET BOTH THE HEALERS/CASTERS/TANKS OF YOUR ARMY IN ONE CLAWED PACKAGE!
2) undead; most people like to play this race because their hero combo creates a nuke that first deals damage, then a second nuke that deals damage, slows the enemy, and makes a aoe dmg, and for the final touch a third nuke that hits on a cone, and stuns? why hassle yourself with "strategy" and "economy" when all you need is 3 heroes ~_~
[/hate]
3) orcs, perhaps the most awful race in the game regarding mechanics, out of the top 20 euro wc3 players, 9 are nelf, 6 are ud, 3 are human and 2 orcs. this pretty much ranks how balanced the races are . . .
orcs have the best melee in the game, but basically everything else this race is pure bullshit, ever tried using trolls against chimeras? that average of 8 dps sure hurts them . .
4) Humans, this race requires most micro, towering, mortcasters , and akm-style is what i prefer to play.
(http://akm.zergs.com/fourm/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2436)
that being said, i think elves are for 12 year old boys,
ud for the "my mom says im cool" people and necrophiliacs( necromancer quotes)
orcs are for people with huge balls and good manner,
and humans are for those korean 600 apm players.
everyone who likes hugging trees, shooting people to the back, and running away when they encounter any actual enemies, other than civilians should love elves.
INGAME CLASSIFICATION OF THE RACES.
BY SLEKSA THE MASTERPWNINATORGOSUMASTER1337D00D
(PREPARE FOR SOME HATE)
1) nelves = THIS RACE REEKS OF GAY.
Farms that heal your units for free? a t2 staff that makes your units invincible? did i also tell you that nelves are gay?
A hero that is both invincible, the fastest non-mounted hero ingame, and makes every other hero in the game useless?(hint, combine with panda to win the whole game using only moonwells and these 2 heroes, tested and tried! get your money back if you by some miracle happen to lose)
oh wait thats not all! if you are dumb enough not to get wins with the 2 most imbalanced heroes ingame, lets give you 2 most imba units too!
by selecting these guys you also get the best antiair-magic-immune--ill-make-your-army-devoid-of-magic-dryads that cost next to nothing!
AND THATS NOT ALL, SELECT NELVES NOW AND YOU CAN GET BOTH THE HEALERS/CASTERS/TANKS OF YOUR ARMY IN ONE CLAWED PACKAGE!
2) undead; most people like to play this race because their hero combo creates a nuke that first deals damage, then a second nuke that deals damage, slows the enemy, and makes a aoe dmg, and for the final touch a third nuke that hits on a cone, and stuns? why hassle yourself with "strategy" and "economy" when all you need is 3 heroes ~_~
[/hate]
3) orcs, perhaps the most awful race in the game regarding mechanics, out of the top 20 euro wc3 players, 9 are nelf, 6 are ud, 3 are human and 2 orcs. this pretty much ranks how balanced the races are . . .
orcs have the best melee in the game, but basically everything else this race is pure bullshit, ever tried using trolls against chimeras? that average of 8 dps sure hurts them . .
4) Humans, this race requires most micro, towering, mortcasters , and akm-style is what i prefer to play.
(http://akm.zergs.com/fourm/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2436)
that being said, i think elves are for 12 year old boys,
ud for the "my mom says im cool" people and necrophiliacs( necromancer quotes)
orcs are for people with huge balls and good manner,
and humans are for those korean 600 apm players.
