weapon request: bouncing grenade

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 22 Jun 2007, 18:18

Something like the quake 3 grenade laucher, it could have a
time delay on explosion
or/and
bounce count then explosion
along with explosion when it hits a unit as it is moving along.

I do not particularly need it for gundam but I was thinking that it is an interesting weapon type that we do not have.

Guessmyname · Post by **Guessmyname** » 22 Jun 2007, 18:27

groundbounce=1 make the weapon bounce on the ground, might not work in spring though - I've never tested it

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 22 Jun 2007, 20:12

I think it works only for certain weapontypes.

Nemo · Post by **Nemo** » 23 Jun 2007, 00:13

groundbounce doesn't work for ballistic weapons. Come to think of it, I've never seen it used, actually.

AF · Post by AF » 23 Jun 2007, 02:12

I thought trepans lua physics allowed for these sorts of customizations?

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 23 Jun 2007, 08:15

AFAIK there's no lua control of projectiles and no plans to add them.

Post by **ILMTitan** » 23 Jun 2007, 08:31

How would you determine how much height it lost per bounce? 20%? Another tag?

Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 23 Jun 2007, 13:31

Maybe just reuse groundbounce for it?

(ie. groundbounce=1 means it bounces back at full energy, groundbounce=0.5 means it loses half it's energy or velocity etc.)

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 23 Jun 2007, 19:33

I had no idea that we had a tag for that... I feel kinda stupid...

I tried ground bounce on a rocket and the rocket didn't bounce. What am I missing?

Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 23 Jun 2007, 19:58

Well no one is sure we have one, let me check..

EDIT: nope, not implemented in Spring

KDR_11k · Post by **KDR_11k** » 23 Jun 2007, 20:35

I think it's implemented for flamers but only for those.

Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 23 Jun 2007, 20:47

I searched through the entire solution for 'groundbounce' in MSVC, but didn't find anything.

Post by **ILMTitan** » 23 Jun 2007, 21:22

This seems like something I would like to work on, but I don't think I should try to include it in .75. .75 is theoretically feature complete, and this would be a new feature.

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 24 Jun 2007, 08:45

cool, I look forward to whatever you work out.

Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 24 Jun 2007, 15:35

ILMTitan wrote:This seems like something I would like to work on, but I don't think I should try to include it in .75. .75 is theoretically feature complete, and this would be a new feature.

Well you could work on it and once a patch is ready we can see whether 0.75 has already been released or is really feature frozen or there is still room to commit the patch...

Post by **ILMTitan** » 02 Jul 2007, 06:09

Finally got back down to coding this afternoon. Getting things to skip off of the ground is easy, but now we need a way to determine how long a groundbouncing projectile can last, such as a new tag. Does "projectiletimeout" sound right? Is it available?

Snipawolf · Post by **Snipawolf** » 02 Jul 2007, 06:13

Timeout? Sounds good.. Seconds, right? Milliseconds and ticks are too short..

Hope this turns out well, I may have a use for it, grenades don't have enough pop.. Bouncing bombs DO!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bouncing_bomb

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Jul 2007, 06:34

Whatever tag you feel fine with ilm is good enough for me. I honestly do not have a unit which can utilize this in my gundam project but I look forward to what 44 and others can do with it.

Post by **ILMTitan** » 02 Jul 2007, 07:35

That link brings me to another question I had. How do I determine if it should skip of the water. Some things you might want to explode when it hits the water, and some skip of the surface, and some off of the floor. Would I be able to use underwater weapon for that?

smoth · Post by **smoth** » 02 Jul 2007, 07:45

hmm... could just be like a waterexplode tag to denote that it would explode underwater?

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weapon request: bouncing grenade

weapon request: bouncing grenade