List what you want to see that map making wiki turn into

[enetheru]

Getting closer to parity with the current main page, only a few things left before it completely surpasses in content.

Also I've basically finished stage one of the beginners tutorial, and am getting my friend who has never done anything like this before create a map without supervision. he will let me know as soon as he gets stuck so I can make it clearer.

[gajop]

Hey, since you asked once:
I've done some work on my scenario editor recently, mostly managed to clean it up & dealt with chili merge (still not perfect, but oh well).

You can grab it from here: https://github.com/gajop/Toolbox.
Check the README, it tells you how to pull it and use the two examples.

Since you wanted a roadmap I've created a TODO file - check it and tell me if you want something added there (it's also likely that I've forgotten some minor stuff).

[enetheru]

Hey, since you asked once:
I've done some work on my scenario editor recently, mostly managed to clean it up & dealt with chili merge (still not perfect, but oh well).

You can grab it from here: https://github.com/gajop/Toolbox.
Check the README, it tells you how to pull it and use the two examples.

Since you wanted a roadmap I've created a TODO file - check it and tell me if you want something added there (it's also likely that I've forgotten some minor stuff).

i get this when i attempt to use it: 'Archive "bar-svn.sdd" not found'

[smoth]

you are missing the bar from the svn.

go in the modinfo of toolkit and change the mod to a version of BA you have. Toolkit is a mutator, that is how it ties to projects.

[gajop]

What smoth said, ToolBox needs modinfo.lua to be edited to be used (at least for now, I'll probably make a mutator for each of the popular mods).

It's all there in the README and the original ToolBox thread.

[smoth]

I just realized, when I download a mod from rapid, rapid does not grab associated mutators. It would be nice if there was a way to tell rapid download this also as part of my game package!

[Forboding Angel]

I just realized, when I download a mod from rapid, rapid does not grab associated mutators. It would be nice if there was a way to tell rapid download this also as part of my game package!

It does if you're using a lobby with proper rapid support (Notalobby, ZK Lobby, Weblobby, hell, even tasclient grabs deps).

Also, SL doesn't use rapid and never has. It grabs stuff from springfiles mostly.

[gajop]

I just realized, when I download a mod from rapid, rapid does not grab associated mutators. It would be nice if there was a way to tell rapid download this also as part of my game package!

It does if you're using a lobby with proper rapid support (Notalobby, ZK Lobby, Weblobby, hell, even tasclient grabs deps).

Also, SL doesn't use rapid and never has. It grabs stuff from springfiles mostly.

How come I'm getting the privilage to contradict forb these days?
http://springrts.com/phpbb/search.php?k ... mit=Search
gives this neat little abma's post:
http://springrts.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph ... id#p532783
(not that smoth mentioned rapid anywhere)

btw, from what i understand, there's nothing special about lobby rapid implementations, it should work the same as the CLI version (and that grabs dependencies fine, f.e evo:stable grabs spring features)

notice how smoth mentioned mutators, not necessarily dependencies, although i'm not sure how that's supposed to work

[Forboding Angel]

I just realized, when I download a mod from rapid, rapid does not grab associated mutators. It would be nice if there was a way to tell rapid download this also as part of my game package!

The current version of SL does not have rapid support for deps. How do I know this? Because I'm using it.

Mutators call the originator as a dependency. Silly Gajop.

[enetheru]

Little Help:
I want to put a couple of pictures on the main page, a minimap and a perspective view of the prettiest map.

if someone could put graphics to maximum and take a screenshot and post a reply here it would be greatly appreciated.

[Forboding Angel]

Plenty to choose from here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/11222843848 ... 359/photos

Smoth has a bunch of Gundam themed ones that look fantastic.

[enetheru]

Thanks Forbs.

Ok I've done alot more, cleaned up quite a lot of stuff, added lots of images. and have gotten some feedback from a third party on various inconsistencies.

Also got myself a girl so haven't done as much as I would have liked a blessing and a curse..

There are quite a few spots I've left fixme's if anyone cared to fill out descriptions or add screenshots, etc.

Getting close to the last mile of parity with old docs, and by that I mean including everything that was in the old one.. there is lots more in the new that isn't in the old but I'm not very well going to ask to have it switched over till everything from the old is in the new.

As always comments and criticism welcome..

Off to a BBQ with said girl to hail in the new year, drink some booze and be merry.. Happy New Year everyone!! :D

[enetheru]

So.. anyone against switching the main map development link over to the page I've been creating?

Any show stoppers?

This doesn't mean I'm done with the docs.. far from it.. it just means I think that what I have is more useful already than the existing one.

[FireStorm_]

A quick FYI if you want neat and tidy , might just be my browser or something, but the collapsible 'contents' box is partly behind the In-Game Screenshot when open.

[abma]

@Forboding Angel

The current version of SL does not have rapid support for deps. How do I know this? Because I'm using it.

it has support for grabbing rapid deps! if this doesn't work, please give an example, so i can fix it.

[Forboding Angel]

I was wrong. Apparently it's just the downloads tab that is all buggered.

[FLOZi]

So.. anyone against switching the main map development link over to the page I've been creating?

Any show stoppers?

This doesn't mean I'm done with the docs.. far from it.. it just means I think that what I have is more useful already than the existing one.

I'll swap it over in ~1 week if no-one voices any concerns.

[enetheru]

So.. anyone against switching the main map development link over to the page I've been creating?

Any show stoppers?

This doesn't mean I'm done with the docs.. far from it.. it just means I think that what I have is more useful already than the existing one.

I'll swap it over in ~1 week if no-one voices any concerns.

do eet!

[knorke]

imo it can be moved over, I have been reading the pages as they were being made and seems quite good.

Only pages that are not so good are imo:
http://springrts.com/wiki/Mapdev:Tutorial_Simple
http://springrts.com/wiki/Mapdev:features (yes i see it is just outline)
because they are a bit too much about blueprint and featureplacer thing.

Instead of .smd file one can now use .lua but does not mean in beginner map there must be all these extra files and options like inverting heightmap, snow etc.
I think all that is needed is mapinfo.lua with very few entries, less confusing than blueprint with all its extras.

Similiar with the features:
There was this featuremap bitmap thing but since the inventation of Spring.CreateFeature you can make scripts to put features on the map.
"FeaturePlacer" is one such script, but not only one:
All features on a map are listed in the set.lua and http://springrts.com/wiki/Mapdev:set.lua
is something specifique to FeaturePlacer.
Some mods/maps use it, some use their own thing, there is no "spring wide" standard.

[Forboding Angel]

set.lua is the standard for Blueprint, Knorke.

Don't you dare try to put up crap about red dots on a bitmap. I WILL choke a bitch.

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