women

[Licho]

Find someone who you enjoy talking to then (perhaps because of similar sense of humour) and just try to spend some time together. It will come. You dont even have to "make the move" - i mean you will sure see when she wants to be touched or kissed. It's not a rocket science, its all natural and you dont really need "practice", so don't feel stressed.

[scrotum]

Alright. I tend to get impatient and frustrated, then it all seems impossible.

I am pretty determined to make progress. I spent the last 8 months buried in books, and the time before that working. This week there are 2 young adult events at church... which might be helpful since they don't just let you hang around without making you involved

the gym though is a great opportunity too, just that you do need a bit of conversation so you don't feel ackward and just end up walking away.

the natural part is fine. but real life has schedules and f*cking problems. which is probably why some guys go to the bar where everyone is drunk and it kind of makes the first part easier.

[Licho]

I've considered this, but it IS my standard. She has to be nice looking. as I said before, if I am forcing myself to date her she senses that right quick, and thats dishonesty... would make her feel even worse since I know I'm going after something below my capability

I'm cool with a gamer chick but not a WOW chick. I'm a good rating too. Bigger than 9/10 guys, there are only a few pro bodybuilders at the gym bigger. I couldn't take an ugly chick like that home, to see my friends or even really boast about it... all I could say is ''i got the job done'' you know

the nod

not the thumbs up. I need to know my capabilities.

Maybe you should consider that all those average 5/10 "get laid" at much younger age, so what makes you think you are 9+/10? There isn't even an objective measure for that, and not everyone is interested in body building or even that much concerned about looks.

After all, primary evolutionary reason to find a partner is to have an offspring, for that, caring and reliable personality is probably much more attractive than extra symmetrical face or willingness to spend time in gym.

So just try to put yourself in the skin of other people and imagine you want someone who cares and not someone who cares too much about how he looks or how his partner looks. Perhaps you are giving that impression?

Looks are overrated imo. Im probably 3-4/10 on the beauty scale, my first long term releationship was this girl http://licho.eu/alba/Luc/DSCN0568m.jpg I didnt even notice she was "hot" I just didnt think in those terms until friends notified me lol. I always considered character traits and being able to have fun together as primary.

[scrotum]

I've considered this, but it IS my standard. She has to be nice looking. as I said before, if I am forcing myself to date her she senses that right quick, and thats dishonesty... would make her feel even worse since I know I'm going after something below my capability

I'm cool with a gamer chick but not a WOW chick. I'm a good rating too. Bigger than 9/10 guys, there are only a few pro bodybuilders at the gym bigger. I couldn't take an ugly chick like that home, to see my friends or even really boast about it... all I could say is ''i got the job done'' you know

the nod

not the thumbs up. I need to know my capabilities.

Maybe you should consider that all those average 5/10 "get laid" at much younger age, so what makes you think you are 9+/10? There isn't even an objective measure for that, and not everyone is interested in body building or even that much concerned about looks.

After all, primary evolutionary reason to find a partner is to have an offspring, for that, caring and reliable personality is probably much more attractive than extra symmetrical face or willingness to spend time in gym.

So just try to put yourself in the skin of other people and imagine you want someone who cares and not someone who cares too much about how he looks or how his partner looks. Perhaps you are giving that impression?

Looks are overrated imo. Im probably 3-4/10 on the beauty scale, my first long term releationship was this girl http://licho.eu/alba/Luc/DSCN0568m.jpg I didnt even notice she was "hot" I just didnt think in those terms until friends notified me lol. I always considered character traits and being able to have fun together as primary.

I never said I was a 9/10, but I knew you would read it that way. It's a measure of the people I come across on a daily basis, a comparison of physical size, fitness and strength

I don't put a number on myself. 7/10 maybe. Guys that are about as attractive as me and much smaller in my class at school get laid 10x as much.

I am interested in the inside person, but the pressure I feel is for other things right now. The people I know who are successful are good talkers. Are you saying if somehow I changed my approach in some unknown way, the conversation would pick up on their part?

I'm stalled out on ground zero here. nothing is working, whether she's physically attractive or not.

maybe if I can get laid, it'll clear my head.

[luckywaldo7]

A great way to meet girls is to do volunteer work. Seriously, women love a man who does community service. Just get out there and get talking to them. Just don't come off strong at the start. Play it cool and nonchalant, just a regular guy who enjoys helping other people out.

If you come off as a hornbag though you are ruined. Perhaps in your current state you should just try your luck with chatroulette. The worst that can happen is you meet a bunch of other horny mostly-naked guys, and you get turned off and can relax and work at playing it cool.

[Licho]

Im not sure about clearing the head, it could raise self confidence though..
If you just care about the sex you could simply call private escort service too.

[scrotum]

you may think this is even more twisted, but there is a part of me that still is bible believing and going with an escort service is a definite no no.

the lines are grey on most other issues though

maybe its the religion holding me back

but hey the community service/volunteer idea is not too bad. any ideas specifically?

[Licho]

Wait a moment? Bible says that escort service is bad? Wasnt the wife of jesus a prostitute? Strange book. I thought it said that giving pleasure to others is good. Werent there prostitutes in jewish temples as well?

[scrotum]

Wait a moment? Bible says that escort service is bad? Wasnt the wife of jesus a prostitute? Strange book. I thought it said that giving pleasure to others is good. Werent there prostitutes in jewish temples as well?

then you don't know the bible very well.

My next question would be, how did you get that gf that you posted a pic of just now? where'd you meet her

[Licho]

At the outdoor swimming pool. Was one of those rare sympathy/love at first sight events. We played a lot in the water.

[scrotum]

how old are you now

[Licho]

31

[MidKnight]

I basically agree with everything licho's said so far.

You're doing this entirely the wrong way, OP. Most people (regardless of gender) don't screw someone because they look okay and can talk smooth. Most people who are in successful relationships (at least beyond a few months) are friends, not just lovers.

Trying to get it on with any girl you can get is stupid and something you'll probably regret in a few years. It's also not a very successful strategy.

What others have said basically sum up my opinions. Meet girls as people, not as faces, bodies or numbers. Talk to them, learn about them, use empathy. Take your time; finding a girl isn't something you should do in a rush. When you do find someone, chance are that they'll like you as much as you like them.

Being desperate for sex is weak. Reducing girls to numbers is ignorant and insensitive. Few women (or men, for that matter) like people who act weak and insensitive.

EDIT: For Chrissake, you're in college? Unless you're an engineer or something, there's bound to be girls in most of your classes! That's an opportunity if there ever was one!

[Forboding Angel]

Wait a moment? Bible says that escort service is bad? Wasnt the wife of jesus a prostitute? Strange book. I thought it said that giving pleasure to others is good. Werent there prostitutes in jewish temples as well?

Jesus was never married.

Edit: He's in college? Oh please dude, you're swimming in seas of vagina. Quit complaining.

[scrotum]

I basically agree with everything licho's said so far.

You're doing this entirely the wrong way, OP. Most people (regardless of gender) don't screw someone because they look okay and can talk smooth. Most people who are in successful relationships (at least beyond a few months) are friends, not just lovers.

Trying to get it on with any girl you can get is stupid and something you'll probably regret in a few years. It's also not a very successful strategy.

What others have said basically sum up my opinions. Meet girls as people, not as faces, bodies or numbers. Talk to them, learn about them, use empathy. Take your time; finding a girl isn't something you should do in a rush. When you do find someone, chance are that they'll like you as much as you like them.

Being desperate for sex is weak. Reducing girls to numbers is ignorant and insensitive. Few women (or men, for that matter) like people who act weak and insensitive.

EDIT: For Chrissake, you're in college? Unless you're an engineer or something, there's bound to be girls in most of your classes! That's an opportunity if there ever was one!

I'm in engineering. Part of it is coming up with some lame excuse to talk to girls in the hall

being the alpha in these situations, I reduce them to numbers for fun. alpha yo

thats how you do it

thanks for the advice though, i will try approach them as people. if they didnt have the tits and good looks i would probably be laid already many times.

[luckywaldo7]

EDIT: For Chrissake, you're in college? Unless you're an engineer or something, there's bound to be girls in most of your classes! That's an opportunity if there ever was one!

Ahhh! That's true it's not even funny. D:

Like half my classes are 100% male.

Edit: And i see probably Scratch's also.

On the plus side, engineers usually make good money. If there is one thing no woman can resist it is money.

[Petah]

Get a a job as a bar tender.

[MidKnight]

Get a a job as a bar tender.

...Or on the other side of the counter.

[smoth]

that falls apart when my supposed left brain self can do art... just saying..

Making detailed models that are essentially accurate interpolations of existing art is about as close to left-brained as you can get.

^ from when I was 15...


^18


^25

stopped drawing. Could pretty much do this level or better now if I felt the need.

[Johannes]

You're doing this entirely the wrong way, OP. Most people (regardless of gender) don't screw someone because they look okay and can talk smooth. Most people who are in successful relationships (at least beyond a few months) are friends, not just lovers.

Trying to get it on with any girl you can get is stupid and something you'll probably regret in a few years. It's also not a very successful strategy.

Bullshit. Sure it might be great to have a working long term relationship but that's certainly not the only way to have sex, I'm pretty sure vast majority of people have engaged in shorter term flings too at some point in their lives.

Trying to get it on with any girl CAN be succesful if you're smooth about it. And what's there to regret as long as you don't get unwanted diseases or kids, and respect your partners?
What I hear more is people regretting they didn't mess around more when they were young, hah.