Calm before the storm? Or DOA?

Ace07 · Post by **Ace07** » 30 Jun 2005, 19:42

We need artists more than we need programmers in my opinion Buggi. We reallly really really really need a lead art designer who can keep all of the art consistent and awesome looking. Being the lead art designer isn't easy though...because you have to be able to coordinate all of the individual art projects and create a consistent theme for TASpring (none of which has been done to date).

If someone can produce all of the art for an in-game interface, the coding group will get something together a lot quicker.

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 30 Jun 2005, 19:44

pine was a lil harder to make look like a pine tree under 100 faces... this has 142.. I can prune it a lil bit and reduce it some... it'll be a lil harder to skin tho..

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 30 Jun 2005, 19:47

shouldn't those two (cool) pics go into the art forum?

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 30 Jun 2005, 19:47

still no word on how to skin it?? and what modeltype???... how was the origional tree used skinned?? anyone know?

Ace07 · Post by **Ace07** » 30 Jun 2005, 19:59

LathanStanley wrote:still no word on how to skin it?? and what modeltype???... how was the origional tree used skinned?? anyone know?

I have no idea....since I don't work on the rts codebase very often. PM Buggi or SJ about it. They will know for sure.

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 30 Jun 2005, 20:14

Remember the nifty rock formation things you could reclaim on the crystal maps for like 1500 energy???

heehe I made one

still no skins.. gonna go pm buggi he seems more active on the boards and I hate to pm em both with the same question...

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 30 Jun 2005, 21:05

Yay for the mars weed

god I'm bored... when the hell is buggi gonna get back and tell me how to skin these fuckers...

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 30 Jun 2005, 21:07

any other requests?

gonna go work on cactuses and rocks some... they are kinda boring tho

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 30 Jun 2005, 21:24

Cactus... :-p

buggi... you slow....

oops forgot the smoothing group on the top of the main stem... its fixed noe tho

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 30 Jun 2005, 21:47

just some rocks...

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 30 Jun 2005, 22:04

I responded

Glad to see your active and inventive... interesting pine @@;;

With very specific type features (not the kind there can be hundreds of) I'd like to see DETAIL. Massive detail. 1000 faces at a minimum. 4000 max probably.

Model the StarGate. :-D *ducks away from flames*

I just wish I had the unit modeling pipeline ready for texturing and preparing models.

-Buggi

Kixxe · Post by **Kixxe** » 30 Jun 2005, 22:39

Nice. I would suggest making the cactus a litthle less flat at the tops, otherwise good!

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 30 Jun 2005, 23:07

HOLY MOLEY! you've been busy!

if only more ppl were as commited...

Ace07 · Post by **Ace07** » 30 Jun 2005, 23:08

Min3mat wrote:HOLY MOLEY! you've been busy! if only more ppl were as commited...

Well, the coders are committed, you just don't see their work as often. They don't seem as active, because it takes time to post status updates. You could spend more time doing something constructive usually...

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 30 Jun 2005, 23:09

Oh sorry didn't mean to offend the moles (i mean programmers :p) :)

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 30 Jun 2005, 23:32

Min3mat wrote:HOLY MOLEY! you've been busy! if only more ppl were as commited...

not really as much as you think... thats VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY basic stuff.... VERY!...

I'm gonna take a screeny of some of my better work just for bragging rights... and then you will go.. oh wow... and after I start and finish the Eastside/Westside buildings... and then make a map with them, when the new map editor comes out... THEN you can say I was busy....

this... is just like... calestenics... (streching and warming up)...

anyhoo... buggi is helping me out with converting the 3ds files I have...

if any of you can get ahold of Meastro and get the source for his 3DSMAX plugin.... DO IT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!! it'll cut my building time in half

that or write a new *.max -> *.3do exporter / importer

edit:
just so I don't lose encouragement....
recent project I did for my university...
Final rendered image with 3DSMAX 6

Wireframe

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 30 Jun 2005, 23:40

Dude... your avatar is just creepy.

GrOuNd_ZeRo · Post by **GrOuNd_ZeRo** » 30 Jun 2005, 23:50

I'd love to dive in and code that shit, but A) don't have the right compilers, B) don't have the skills, I look at the Quake 3 sourcecode, and I get lost, couldn't even mod a weapon.

Give me the compiler and i'll give it a whirl, i'd love to add some stuff I wish to see...

LathanStanley · Post by **LathanStanley** » 01 Jul 2005, 00:14

ok I feel like I've been digging through snow with a popsicle stick... I know its alot of work, but I've been making progress....

however... all of a sudden... I've broken my popsicle stick on a 40 foot thick slab of ice...

the ice is this texturing BULLSHIT system that TA uses... used... omg it needs to change... BADLY!... this shit system is like opening up pandora's box...

not only A- every fucking surface has to be rectilinear (and 3dsmax uses ALL and ONLY ALL, triangles...).... that ALONE makes it damn near impossible to texture objects effectively...

second.. the bipmaps for use... um... no... just no.... 256 color 64x64 swatches... lol... those are a joke and a half...

third.. 3DO BUILDER is the MOST BUGGY PROGRAM I HAVE EVER SEEN! I click on 3 buttons (in succession) within the texture pallette and it hangs up, EVERY TIME...

fourth... ever tried to use that program?? the interface is ruidiclious... if you build a model of something VERY detailed say 2000+ faces... you have a slider on the bottom to select every face, and you can't ZOOM TO IT.... you have to find the lit wireframe amongst a HUGE array of yellow wires that can't be hidden... oh its disgusting...

and the best part about it... is that it numbers the faces in complete random... there is no thought put in to any of it...

if it takes me 15 mins to build a model... it'll take me 150 mins to build a compatiable model (rectilinear wise) and 1500 mins to texture it...

I am not liking the time this is gonna take anymore...

Buggi · Post by **Buggi** » 01 Jul 2005, 01:04

Patience young padawan. A good pipeline is in the works, it's just complicated work and has to be done right.

-Buggi

Spring RTS Engine

Calm before the storm? Or DOA?