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esteroth12 · Post by **esteroth12** » 18 Jun 2006, 00:16

if tis option one, also make all shield block a new "EMP Bomb", which does 0 damage to units but utterly destroys shields... this allows the attacker (URC/NI) to eliminate the enemy easily, as they enemy normally has a good shield...

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 18 Jun 2006, 00:33

yeah that would be awesome

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esteroth12 · Post by **esteroth12** » 18 Jun 2006, 00:36

ok, min3, why not? anything can be justified with cost... also, it only takes a couple of rocket units to take down air units...

Soulless1 · Post by **Soulless1** » 18 Jun 2006, 02:36

esteroth12 wrote:option 1 if you give URC a light cannon mech...

As I currently see the energy weapons:

URC - Plasma&Fire
GD - Lasers&Ion
NI - Sonic&Lightning

so the shields would block enemy weapons... ie

URC - Lasers, Ion, Sonic, Lightning
GD - Plasma, Fire, Sonic, Lighning
NI - Plasma, Fire, Laser, Ion

but URC has no light cannon mech, and GD has both of their specialties

I agree this (shields blocking energy weapons, but those weapons do more damage) would be the most interesting way to go, though I reckon it would be best to just have each race with a shield that would block all 'energy' (ie laser, ion, sonic, lightning, plasma and flame) weapons (though of course it could still be battered down as usual) since a lot of the time races will end up fighting themselves in multiplayer.

But yes, this would require some kind of light/medium cannon mech for URC, which seems fair since they get it at level 3 anyways

esteroth12 · Post by **esteroth12** » 18 Jun 2006, 02:38

actually, im pretty sure that there is a medium cannon mech, too... so fang only needs to add a light cannon mech and URC will be set

Pxtl · Post by **Pxtl** » 18 Jun 2006, 03:56

esteroth12 wrote:ok, min3, why not? anything can be justified with cost... also, it only takes a couple of rocket units to take down air units...

min3 has an automatic dislike for any "unit made specifically to counter another unit" and, despite the fact that he's an egomaniacal putz, I agree with him. Overcomplicated relationships of "unit X is made for unit Y" into some massive web of exceptions and tweaks is an annoying feature from StarCraft that has no place in a fast-paced mod.

esteroth12 · Post by **esteroth12** » 18 Jun 2006, 04:01

how's it overcomplicated? its just a normal air unit with a special bomb

really, though... it gets shot down by normal AA... it's just effective against shields, not armor

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 18 Jun 2006, 04:10

An EMP bomber could also be used to show those clumped up GD tanks whats what! It also has the side effect of being a highly portibal air unit. It should also effect sheilds as A side note. Everyone love's the Ion cannon tanks, right? So this is just one of those. On a plane. In bomb form.

Malphas · Post by **Malphas** » 18 Jun 2006, 06:48

Another quick question, Fang. On the loading screen that shows the functions of the T2 mexes, what does it mean by "NI extractors assist in base expansion"?

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 18 Jun 2006, 06:49

I think they have nanolathers on them.

Malphas · Post by **Malphas** » 18 Jun 2006, 06:55

Zoombie wrote:I think they have nanolathers on them.

Yeah, that makes sense. Cool, so I guess they can build turrets and things?

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 18 Jun 2006, 07:34

Or do they just aid?

Aun · Post by **Aun** » 18 Jun 2006, 15:14

Well, they haven't been made yet, so Fang is probably the only person who can answer that...

j5mello · Post by **j5mello** » 18 Jun 2006, 18:14

that was the plan so we will see what happens

Fanger · Post by **Fanger** » 20 Jun 2006, 05:27

I think I will add a lvl 2/lvl 3 covert factory for URC that will produce only cloaked units..

Also what would everyone else say if I reduced the cost of all factories overall and shuffled some of that cost into the time to produce units...

Journier · Post by **Journier** » 20 Jun 2006, 05:40

would make it even more fun for me to spam lvl 1 factories all over.

Zoombie · Post by **Zoombie** » 20 Jun 2006, 05:54

I like the idea. But I don't play the URC.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 20 Jun 2006, 07:54

I don't care for the thought of units taking longer to build personally.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 20 Jun 2006, 10:39

Forboding Angel wrote:I don't care for the thought of units taking longer to build personally.

I agree, I'd rather take forever on a plant than forever on a unit.

knorke · Post by **knorke** » 20 Jun 2006, 12:07

Also what would everyone else say if I reduced the cost of all factories overall and shuffled some of that cost into the time to produce units...

I think that would be worth a try.
This way it would be usefull to build multiple factories of the same type, to produce fast enough.

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