requests about next ba realease

[Gota]

QQ threads are always fun...
Albator maybe next make a thread about bladewings and how they should be nerfed?

[Wombat]

drones are core, never !

[Cheesecan]

Smoth BA's balance is something which affects BA's gameplay, and BA's gameplay is something you are not a party to. You don't have to post in every single thread here.

[SinbadEV]

I believe smoth's point was that saying "change the HP/Damage/Cost of Unit X" might not fix the issue as well as, say, changing it so that Unit X doesn't receive bonus damage from UnitZ, make it so a units aim animation is faster/slower so it is more fairly balances"... namely that the primary stats in any game can go back and forth without solving the core issue... he's not stating (in this thread, except as an example) that certain things need to be or do not need to be changed... just pointing out that things are more complicated then buff/nerf unit X.

I just felt the need to post because I don't even have a computer capable of playing spring right now and have not since my video card pooched like 2 years ago and as such I thought it was ironic for me to post in a thread about people having no business discussing things that are of no concern to them... People on the Internet are wrong and need to be corrected!!!!

[Wombat]

[Johannes]

So instead of changing goliath hp, the main thing at fault is units that do extra damage to Krogoth?

@basic, I do even if not very much atm. Posting on forum takes up all my time etc.

[SinbadEV]

So instead of changing goliath hp, the main thing at fault is units that do extra damage to Krogoth?

@basic, I do even if not very much atm. Posting on forum takes up all my time etc.

See... still missing the point... smoth was all like "I don't know about that thing in particular but I know this other thing is screwed up so I imagine it's a similar issue"

I like acting like I can read smoth's mind...

[smoth]

I like how no one but sinbad read the post. Yan trolls, with some seriously weak hypocritical noise. no, I didn't confirm or deny albator's point.

This is why ba is bad and why AA is bad the no lifers insist that unless you are a no lifer you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Neutral statements are volilently oppossed by asshats who want this to be their own private domain. I played AA before many of you were around. I watched it die and was in main to encourage people moving to ba blah blah just as invested in the sorted history of the project as any new nolifer.

Fact of the matter is I answered womb's question arguing NOTHING against or for the balance discussion. Simply stated that the balance is more complex than hp/cost or damage/cost. Illustrated that the are potholes in the tattered balance of ba and made no argument what so ever about the direction ba should go. Yet yan in a effort to troll busts out claims that I have. Cheesecan takes himself down a notch by telling me gtfo before considering that I actually watch this project. Womb acts like an ass when I was answering HIS question.


To me, I see a community who is openly hostile to people it sees as outsiders. Which makes you lot no better than the old fanboys of aa

[Wombat]

Womb acts like an ass when I was answering HIS question.

was actually doing the same thing as u

[smoth]

yes, yes we know ba is imba etc etc, stop whining already.

^ this was appropriate how?

[Wombat]

ur usual response, everyone whine and so on.

[smoth]

My usual response to people who have dine nothing.

I sat down and wrote code to check over the move def for inconsistencies. Began checking over the weapon damage classes and almost looked into detailing any of them when I realized got lot would go apeshit the moment I questioned that (as you are now) so I stopped that effort. I am still interested in helping with the efforts for the new ba an if behe asks I look into what he requests.

So I do more than just bitch or whine. Don't even try to suggest that I have not help ba or AA because I have and still do help just about any project I can.

[Wombat]

then go and help and stop whining like pxtl or lucky, how ba balance is crap, if u clearly got no idea about ba balance (following krog example - torpedo is one but weapons that can kill krog outside water, dozen + u dont play ba)

dunno why so much drama about ppl who do nothing, some ppl just want to play, SUPRISE.

also, i havent done as much as u did but seriously, stfu and stop pointing out i do nothing, i just dont spam pictures in wip, thats all.

[Gota]

How did this become a Pure QQ thread?
I thought this was about BA...oh wait..Smoth...


Wooow QQ party for 10 pages lets party yo!!

[KaiserJ]

ITT: dont play with kroggy in the bathtub. NEXT

[Wombat]

rather ppl who want to release their frustration coz ba is more popular, so they complain all the time how ba balance is shit and ba players are idiots coz they play it

ppl who dont play X game, dont post anything in its subforum. and here ? lol

ITT: dont play with kroggy in the bathtub. NEXT

lol

[smoth]

then go and help and stop whining like pxtl or lucky, how ba balance is crap, if u clearly got no idea about ba balance (following krog example - torpedo is one but weapons that can kill krog outside water, dozen + u dont play ba)

dunno why so much drama about ppl who do nothing, some ppl just want to play, SUPRISE.

also, i havent done as much as u did but seriously, stfu and stop pointing out i do nothing, i just dont spam pictures in wip, thats all.

Actually I was under the impression you have become an active contributor around here. I am under the impression that we have a misunderstanding between us though.

[Johannes]

Sure, BA has a lot of "iffy" stuff in damage multipliers, but that's not why people mainly ask for straightforward hp or cost changes. And slowly turning turrets, and hills effecting targeting, that's just part of the game - nothing wrong with those.


Let's take the krog/torp example though, when you properly think about it, it's way better to have a krog that takes increased dmg from torpedos (it still takes ages to kill one by torps) than a krog which wouldn't be able to go into water as is usual for ground units. So no, krog is not weak on watery maps, having water rather makes it more useful.

Anyone can pretty easily figure out stuff about damage classes when by a quick glance at modinfo. It doesn't help very much though in understanding the game unless you actually have good experience in playing it (-> being a no lifer apparently).

[smoth]

rather ppl who want to release their frustration coz ba is more popular, so they complain all the time how ba balance is shit and ba players are idiots coz they play it

ppl who dont play X game, dont post anything in its subforum. and here ? lol

Womb: forum search gundam sucessful with the poster being me

I post here to offer insight which I believe to be useful and potentially benificial

Johan: I don't think it is bad at all just frustratingly inconsistent. The modinfo file only contains the version number. It does not contain the damages or armor classes unless you are talking about tm's site(that is still around?). I thought about writing an extended unit info tooltip to help with the damage and armor classes, at the very least letting you know but then came upon another idea for an effectiveness indicator. Which I may still do.

Not saying Krog should not be amphibious but saying it is odd that it takes extra damage and there is nothing to indicated this to be the case. That is bad IMO as the Krog is not the only example of such a thing. I just stumbled on that one day

[Johannes]

Yes i meant modinfo site.

http://modinfo.adune.nl/index.php?MOD=ba719