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Tobi · Post by **Tobi** » 28 Sep 2007, 11:25

AF wrote: As for your processes I think actual management would do us well using something like Trac for the site. It'd streamline the whole whats left to do process bugs feature requests, and the whole process would be far easier to manage and much easier to visualize. There'd be far less documentation needed to explain things and we can set out milestones to show progress.

An example fo a working Trac setup:

http://www.springlobby.info

+1 for trac

I would also argue that any changes to svn should automatically update the development site as soon as its committed.

There are still some technical difficulties to overcome wrt this (read: SVN and website aren't on the same server and SVN server (update hook) has no access whatsoever to web server), but Fnordia is planning to move SVN sometime and then this could be done.

clericvash · Post by **clericvash** » 28 Sep 2007, 12:25

I agree with AF that is a dam good idea. Trac would be pretty useful, although i have never used it for myself i do follow it on pidgins website (the instant messenger).

imbaczek · Post by **imbaczek** » 28 Sep 2007, 15:01

and I'd ditch svn while we're at it.

AF · Post by AF » 28 Sep 2007, 17:22

SVN is useful but forcing all wok to be done using svn commits checkouts and patches is too much to ask of the potential recruit who has never heard of SVN before especially in a web dvelopment field in spare time.

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 29 Sep 2007, 00:22

AF wrote:By basics I mean get everything we currently have here in the new site.so that we can make it live and have exactly the same features.

I did drop the "submit files" feature of the current site, don't know if people agree with this.

AF wrote:As for your processes I think actual management would do us well using something like Trac for the site. ...

The Trac suggestion is indeed a very good idea, I'm going to open a new topic for it so we can have a focused discussion about it.

AF wrote:SVN is useful but forcing all wok to be done using svn commits checkouts and patches is too much to ask of the potential recruit who has never heard of SVN before especially in a web dvelopment field in spare time.

So that would be a requirement of new recruit, how do you suggest we fix this?

imbaczek · Post by **imbaczek** » 29 Sep 2007, 00:24

Tim Blokdijk wrote:
AF wrote:SVN is useful but forcing all wok to be done using svn commits checkouts and patches is too much to ask of the potential recruit who has never heard of SVN before especially in a web dvelopment field in spare time.
So that would be a requirement of new recruit, how do you suggest we fix this?

Use a distributed vcs, then it'll be easy to see what others changed and pull those changes if needed.

BrainDamage · Post by **BrainDamage** » 29 Sep 2007, 00:24

Tim Blokdijk wrote: So that would be a requirement of new recruit, how do you suggest we fix this?

in the springlobby project we have the buildbot automatic tarball of svn commits, anyone with a compatible unpacker can easily follow the development, he'll miss the advanced merge/diff functions of svn tho

EDIT: we also migrated to git as vcs, so any dev who knows/willing to learn to use it will get a huge shortcut in the steps to have integrated his patch

AF · Post by AF » 29 Sep 2007, 00:46

I ahve no clue what vcs is so I doubt any prospective web developer will either.

If you mean cvs then reread the thread and replace all mentions of svn with cvs.

BrainDamage · Post by **BrainDamage** » 29 Sep 2007, 00:48

vcs = version control system

SVN, git, CVS they are all version control systems, it's the software cathegory

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 05 Oct 2007, 14:49

After coding for a few hours yesterday evening I more or less fixed up all the lose ends I'm was still aware of. There are still *a few* things that I like to do on the technical side before it's really done.

That means it's coming down on the content side of things. I have requested help with this (read the first post in this topic) but nobody really picked up on it.
This more or less means that the new site will remain in dry dock as although a technical marvel (especially the translation system

) without content it's not going to be possible to replace the current site.

Satirik · Post by **Satirik** » 05 Oct 2007, 15:45

clericvash · Post by **clericvash** » 05 Oct 2007, 15:50

I love the above logo, good work!

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 05 Oct 2007, 19:09

The first banner that I can actually just plug in to make it show up.
I uploaded it to the dev. env. so you see how it looks.
http://newspring.clan-sy.com/index.php?language=english
Can you post the .psd or .xcf of the file to? (presuming you made it with Gimp or Photoshop)

AF · Post by AF » 05 Oct 2007, 19:17

We desperatly need a border to break up the sharp cut inbetween the banner and the stuff below it.

btw we need to fix the forum to stop users posting null posts like satiriks one above, in many languages that would be converted into null/nil and cause a crash.

Satirik · Post by **Satirik** » 05 Oct 2007, 22:00

Tim Blokdijk wrote:The first banner that I can actually just plug in to make it show up.
I uploaded it to the dev. env. so you see how it looks.
http://newspring.clan-sy.com/index.php?language=english
Can you post the .psd or .xcf of the file to? (presuming you made it with Gimp or Photoshop)

the colors doesn't match between the banner and the rest of the site

edit: i'll post the psd when i'll be back home

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 05 Oct 2007, 22:40

Yes, quite right.. I suggest you fix it.

[EDIT]
And while your at it can you fix up the French header translation?
It got some characters corrupted with text encoding mixups. I like to know if it's working correctly now. And if I can back-up and restore without leading to new corruption problems.
[/EDIT]

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 08 Oct 2007, 16:44

*bump*

Satirik · Post by **Satirik** » 08 Oct 2007, 19:18

you can remove it, the whole design must be done by the same person ... not me

rattle · Post by **rattle** » 08 Oct 2007, 21:13

Satirik wrote:long image

Good but too much TA tbh.

Hmm I'm having charset issues in FF... the c in Fran├â┬ºais shows up wrong in UTF-8 mode. Any other mode breaks other special characters.

Post by **Tim Blokdijk** » 08 Oct 2007, 22:23

Satirik, alright but can you post the Photoshop file anyhow? That way I or someone else can try to build on your work.
Can you also fix up the French translated header?

@rattle, I'm aware of the encoding problem, it seems to happen when I restore from backup so I'm focusing on a fix for this back-up procedure. As this is something you don't what to deal with when you have to do a real site restore.

For the rest, I did not bump this only for Satirik's response. I need some real help and dedication with the (non-coding) things I mentioned in the first post. So who is willing to contribute his(/her?) time to Spring site development?

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