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FBI editor?

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zwzsg
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Post by zwzsg »

gamer17 wrote:I know I can ues notepad, but asked for an editor.
If their was not one then, dont answer or tell me theirs not, dont hust post the dumb comment that I already know.
Notepad is a simple text editor included with .....

You asked for an easy method, and notepad is the easiest way since it's already installed on about every PC, and since it's so simple to use.

To make FBI, generic text editors are better because:
- Since they're generic, they've been used on large scale already / have been comptley debugged / are backed by large commericial entities / have been refined for years / whatever, which means they are more powerful and efficient and bug free and etc.. than a free fan-made FBI specific editor.
- You might already be accustomed to using a certain text editor, and so will save on the learning how to operate it.
- They give you the freedom to write anything, such as comments for yourself, or newest Spring tag implemented one hour ago, etc... If there was a FBI specific editor that knew the list of tags, it wouldn't be able to use new FBI tags, which are constantly added to Spring source.

You said you knew unit stats are in the FBI, but you never said that you knew that FBI were simple text file, that you can read and edit without any specific editor.

Therefore, KDR_11k answer was not lame. It was perfectly accurate, relevant, and informative. You, however, are the lame one, for refusing to acknowledge that AFAIK even the bestest modders only use basic text editord to edit their FBI.

I personnaly edit all my FBI with notepad, with only an extremely small amount of UltraEdit32 when I need to do a "replace in all files". Like I said, a FBI specific editor would only bring me more trouble, restriction, and complication.
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Post by VonGratz »

zwzsg wrote: If there was a FBI specific editor that knew the list of tags, it wouldn't be able to use new FBI tags, which are constantly added to Spring source.

G17
THIS is the main point to you try to understand that these guys are trying to help you, suggesting the easiest and simple way to do fbi edition.
Apologies would be very nice.... :wink:
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Post by j5mello »

really gamer17 this:
You said you knew unit stats are in the FBI, but you never said that you knew that FBI were simple text file, that you can read and edit without any specific editor.
sums up the issue. None of us are bloody psychic, so how are we suppose to know u know about using notepad already hmmm??? a better question for u to ask would have been:

"Are there any other and/or specific editors for FBI files other than something like notepad?"

See? simple clear and actually explains your situation...

anyway... on a completely different note... VONGRATZ WE NEEDS MOAR TA BATTLEFLEET BETAS ASAP!!!!!!!!
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Post by Snipawolf »

Ignorance. Humanity.
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Abokasee
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Post by Abokasee »

P3374H wrote:Welcome to the land of you-just-shoved-away-modder-help. Have fun.

btw, that's really all there is to it ^_^

Unless you're too ignorant to know that mods are in zip or 7zip archives, in which case 30 seconds on the Spring wiki could have saved you this embarrassment.
Thing is though the Modding wiki has been neglected for quite some time, particually the modeling bit (Can you finish that UV mapping tutorial please?)
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Post by gamer17 »

I know their trying to help.
But the fact that I know what a FBI is should tell you I looked at the wiki.
If notepad is the best tool, then I guess I'll have to use it.

Im just trying to learn the ins and outs of spring so I can help out, I already learned how to make maps, so now I am doing mods, next I might get into models.

And the "lamers" comment was just me trying to be funny, nobody tell people to get out of their topic, thats just dumb.
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Post by Snipawolf »

gamer17 wrote:nobody tell people to get out of their topic, thats just dumb.
lol, don't make me quote 30 people

btw, notepad++ (open source notepad that actually kicks ass, or something like that) is pretty good.
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Post by KingRaptor »

gamer17 wrote:And the "lamers" comment was just me trying to be funny
And failing miserably.
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Post by Maelstrom »

BTW zwzsg, my FBI editor did support adding in new tags (just add a row in the spreadsheet), but yea unfortunately its out of date in other ways anyway. Still fine for OTA and stuff if someone wanted to
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Post by VonGratz »

j5mello wrote: anyway... on a completely different note... VONGRATZ WE NEEDS MOAR TA BATTLEFLEET BETAS ASAP!!!!!!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
VonGratz
in a cross road.....
So little time for a lot of things..but Im already testing the last beta "TA", before the jump for the new mod.It is an "Epic" one TA version, very diferent from the last. :wink:
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Post by zwzsg »

Maelstrom wrote:BTW zwzsg, my FBI editor did support adding in new tags (just add a row in the spreadsheet), but yea unfortunately its out of date in other ways anyway. Still fine for OTA and stuff if someone wanted to
Then pimp it! This is exactly the place to! How come you missed that occasion? It was just a matter of dropping a link...
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Post by Maelstrom »

zwzsg wrote:Then pimp it! This is exactly the place to! How come you missed that occasion? It was just a matter of dropping a link...
I dropped a link at the start of the thread somewhere, and I used to pimp it every occasion I got, but as I said, its now out of date. It cant handle the new explosion stuff in the FBI unfortunately :(
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