Why do we even have speed universally enabled?

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 03 Jul 2006, 06:40

I don't understand why gamespeed(+ and - buttons) is still a universally available command to all players in a game. The feature is not supported and it really makes spring annoying at times, the game is unplayable laggy at high speeds, and increasing the speed doesn't help when the game lags because it wants to send more data when the game is faster and it can't do that because of lag anyways. Decreasing the speed isn't really useful either except to players who want to cheat or be greifers to other springers. I propose we make speed changing a .cheat command, so it's still available for watching demos and stuff, but at the same time it isn't going to be abused by noobs in game. We can always move it back later when it's better supported and works properly without just changing the data transfer rate, but for the time being it's just a nusance that is better off left unavailable during standard play.

Theotherguy · Post by **Theotherguy** » 03 Jul 2006, 07:00

I wholeheartedly agree.

DUMBHA · Post by **DUMBHA** » 03 Jul 2006, 07:10

I'm with you... Though there is a thing called lock game speed in the very right tab in the game lobby that you can use for now...Though you have to be the host to change it, So if your not the host and you want it turned on you have to ask the host.

Forboding Angel · Post by **Forboding Angel** » 03 Jul 2006, 07:24

I was wondering if that worked correctly...

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 03 Jul 2006, 07:45

DUMBHA wrote:I'm with you... Though there is a thing called lock game speed in the very right tab in the game lobby that you can use for now...Though you have to be the host to change it, So if your not the host and you want it turned on you have to ask the host.

Problem is, it's off by default, when speed shouldn't even be accessable at all in game because it's buggy and non supported.

Comp1337 · Post by **Comp1337** » 03 Jul 2006, 08:53

Just turn it on by default, must be easier than making it a .cheat command. And more practical too.

clericvash · Post by **clericvash** » 03 Jul 2006, 11:14

Swift i am so glad i am not the only one who thought it
+1 to this idea, i am deffinatly all for it.

One thing that pissed me off about TA, all the noobs or people that thought they was amazing played at high speed...

Rayden · Post by **Rayden** » 03 Jul 2006, 11:28

But if you remove it, don't remove it for replays too

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 03 Jul 2006, 11:47

Rayden wrote:But if you remove it, don't remove it for replays too

I'm not suggesting removing it, I'm suggesting it not be accessable in normal play by default. I could be wrong but I'm fairly sure a replay host can issue the .cheat command mid replay, so they would still have access to speed changing for that purpous.

Neddie · Post by **Neddie** » 03 Jul 2006, 12:02

I support a default option to lock it to the host which can be turned off by said host or overridden by .cheat in game.

AF · Post by AF » 03 Jul 2006, 15:50

switft, you're meant to lower the speed when you lag.

Comp1337 · Post by **Comp1337** » 03 Jul 2006, 16:36

AF wrote:switft, you're meant to lower the speed when you lag.

n00bs dont care.

SwiftSpear · Post by **SwiftSpear** » 03 Jul 2006, 16:49

AF wrote:switft, you're meant to lower the speed when you lag.

Yes, this is the technically correct thing to do, however, when the game slows down because it's getting lagged up most players, being players and not technically minded experts, try to speed the game up by increasing the gamespeed, which of course just increased instability. The VAST majority of uses for the speed commands I've seen have just been to abuse other players in the game and force hosts to lock it.

Decimator · Post by **Decimator** » 03 Jul 2006, 18:52

Yes, I would be for locking it by default, as long as it is possible to unlock from the lobby, as well as once the game has started. I use it in test games, with other people.

AF · Post by AF » 03 Jul 2006, 20:32

Why not just set it so only the host can change it by default?

Caydr · Post by **Caydr** » 03 Jul 2006, 21:07

+1 for sure, only host should be able to adjust speed OR PAUSE.

Min3mat · Post by **Min3mat** » 03 Jul 2006, 22:07

no...this entire thread is pointless
what about ppl who host then go afk (and spec) ?
why the fuck even bother. 90% of players will NOT abuse speed and the other 10% .cheat .setmaxspeed1 .setminspeed1 ... ffs do people just make up problems for spring now? are there not enough real problems for the devs?

Comp1337 · Post by **Comp1337** » 03 Jul 2006, 22:14

You dont even need to cheat.

Das Bruce · Post by **Das Bruce** » 04 Jul 2006, 04:37

Caydr wrote:+1 for sure, only host should be able to adjust speed OR PAUSE.

+0.5, pause should be universal.

FizWizz · Post by **FizWizz** » 04 Jul 2006, 05:20

Das Bruce wrote:
Caydr wrote:+1 for sure, only host should be able to adjust speed OR PAUSE.
+0.5, pause should be universal.

ditto, changing speed is something that should be left to the host, but other people should at least be able to pause if they need to.

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Why do we even have speed universally enabled?

Why do we even have speed universally enabled?